Hi @matthere and @matt_gh2,

Thanks for all the info.

I guess that's going to be my next purchase! I am working on a documentary and I need to be pretty selective with the amount of space moon T7 files take. That being said, I don't mind the space because the quality is so nice. Singe I am usually hand holding the camera and following people around, I am pretty sure the bitrates are on the high side. I also need the sound quality improved and the 449kbps improves it just enough so I can ditch the ediroll and just plug the mic to the GH2 (a massive improvement over 5DII on this department alone - don't know about 5DIII)

I'll try @matt_gh2's short clip after long clip to see if the playback comes back. If not, I will assume is the datarate with the audio patch. In any case, I am happy I am able to have really good quality files that I can grade quite a bit more than anything I have managed before (NEX 5n, NEX 7, RX100, 5DII) Also, I am happy to see the big blocks in high iso go.

I have a very limited budget now and I am trying to see if I can get a second hand 12-35mm so I can gain that extra half stop over the kit lens (12-42mm) and another microphone. I have the Rode Stereo Videomic and I would like something more directional now.

So far it looks like the card is the next thing...so...I am heading over to amazon. @matt_gh2...thanks for the link but I live in the UK so I need to do a bit of hunting around here.

Quick question, before I go, do any of you use 5DtoRGB anymore after using the Moon T5/T7 patches? or is that now an unnecessary step? Finally, I read Moon T5 is sharper than T7... does that mean that on the higher ISOs (1250+) the grain would be more finely reproduced? I ask because I use no lighting in my work.

Cheers again for all the info!

Hi @hexagonal and welcome, I'm sure you'll enjoy your gh2 :)
Firstly, many of the settings are very finely balanced to give the best quality image recording in the camera and some settings are so data hungry that when they are recorded to the SD the data rates are too high for the camera to play back the image. Some folks believe that in camera playback is superfluous and like the higher data rates, some like to have the playback so would rather have a slightly lower rate.
Having said all that, I think Moon T7 should normally playback, but it sounds like the additional audio info may have pushed the setting into "Not able to playback" mode. So you have a choice where to go from here.. I have recorded quite a bit of the higher rate footage, with no adverse camera effects so I think it is probably just down to if you want to check footage in the field, or not.

Secondly the only sd card that reliably allows spanning is the 64GB 95mbps Extreme Pro card, the 8, 16, 32GB versions have been tested by many, but cannot reliably span some of the higher data rate settings.
Hope this helps, have fun with your new camera :)

While I agree with the overall statements that Nick owes us nothing and pressuring him for a patch is quite pointless (especially since the quality we get out of T7 is absolutely phenomenal), I have to disagree with the fairly condescending comments about people only using the hack for cats and backyard footage on YouTube. That's not really representative of all the people that use a hacked GH2, it's only representative of the ones who have enough time and/or energy to devote to these types of forums. I have used T7 on broadcast television shows, corporate clients and plenty of paying gigs, but people who shoot professionally (yes, even sometimes with a hacked GH2) can't just go posting the footage all over the internet in many cases (unless you want to piss off your clients or the broadcasters). I'll tell you what Nick actually got for all hard work he has put in over the years (and it's not lament over cat videos): it's the recognition and the respect of plenty of working professionals all over the world. His name is on the tip of the tongues and the back of the minds of many innovative film makers and media producers. Personally, I am grateful for his (and others) efforts. If there is any more juice to squeeze out of this beast, I'm confident Nick (and/or the rest of the community) will be able to do it. - and when the next advancement comes, for as long as I still own a GH2, I'll still be checking it out, because a potential opportunity for progress should never be ignored. The most dangerous kind of man is one who believes he has nothing left to learn. I am constantly surprised by the new developments made by this community, but nobody should ever let a project go stale while waiting on a patch or a camera, I think this is something we all agree on.

@driftwood t8!..t8!...t8!...t8! lol

@driftwood t8!..t8!...t8!...t8! lol

@babak indeed, it would be great if we had HBR 25p comparable to 24H mode.... :)

Hi matt_gh2 , I'll try your advices and I use vintage lenses too as Lomo, Nikon, Canon, etc. thank you very much and good works. PS., moonT8 looks great.

@Shaveblog it might be only 720P but I like it better than a lick of footage I've seen from the GH4.

Yep, went there.

I had the same problems with this "demo" when Nick linked to it 4 months ago that I do now. It's not a demo of anything except how nice and dreamy slowed-down footage of waves looks. And why is the highest quality version we're meant to evaluate T8 with only 720p and measly 2.65Mb/s? Where's the original MTS on Dropbox I can download and judge on its own merits, free of down-conversion, transcoding, retiming, and I'm assuming a soupçon of color grading as well.

It's a fine looking bit of eye candy and a credit to Nick's eye as a shooter, but it's no more useful as a test/demo than siestajohn's epic homage to Tex and Edna Boil.

@matt_gh2 Where is the test footage located? I'd like to take a ponder at it. :)

Good points guys, but I'm definitely looking forward to T8, based on the test footage Nick put up. It promises to be a unique look.

@paulo Definitely try IV 2, Moon T7, and even IV 1 for narrative filmmaking. Each has a different look. I think IV2 looks best with vintage lenses (I use Lomos) (my tests with IV2 and Panny 12-35 lens weren't so great). If you're using Panny glass I would try Moon T7.  Sedna is good look too.

I shot a feature with IV2 and was pleased. Trailer is being cut, so will post here when done to give idea of why I like IV2. I have another film idea in mind, and maybe T8 will be the hack setting I use.

Don't care so much about "in vogue". As he said, every intra-only with more than 70 will give you technically nice pictures to start with. The rest of being filmic is much more about lighting, choice of lenses (and sometimes filters) and good, subtle grading.

Plus the whole rest that makes a good film, like story, actors et cetera…

Well said @Shaveblog, well said. I'm not sure how @Driftwood keeps from unleashing the dragon on what seems to be a hell of a lot of people who simply haven't bothered to read any previous threads, but god bless him. Sadly, I also believe we've hit the ceiling in terms of hack development, and I'll miss the days of likeminded exchange of information and inspiring footage in this forum. I'll still subscribe to a few threads, including this one, but the days of excitedly checking back several times a day are over. Vitaliy did a great thing, and some of us still appreciate the amazing things that him, and guys like Driftwood have done over the years. Many thanks. T8 can wait.