Mitakon lens Turbo, Speed Booster analog, available

AlbertZ

In your opinion, a 35 f2 lens on Sony nex cameras will perform better than a 50 f2 + Mitalon Turbo LEns+ Nex? The FOV will be the same, however, apart from the extra stop of the Tubo lens, I think that the 50mm will perform better than 35 since it doesn't show any distortion/ wide angle perspective...anyone has some pics/test about this comparison? It would be easy to test a Canon FD 35mm f2 against a Mitakon+ 50 FD f 1.8...

On my old Kiron 28 f2 mounted on GH1, distortion is very evident...it's the drawback of using a wide lens to get a 50mm like FOV...

losad83

@Brian202020 https://m.facebook.com/home.php?refsrc=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2F&refid=8&_rdr#!/story.php?story_fbid=476397272450394&id=218790944877696&comment_id=3071213&offset=0&total_comments=2&notif_t=feed_comment&ref=m_notif&__user=100000987926545

losad83

2 months from when I wonder.

oscillian

MXcamera: "M43 adapters will be available 2 months later."

oscillian

@Brian202020 Just PM them :-)

Brian202020

Hey guys, a Mitakon/MX Camera rep responded to my inquiry about Nikon G-M4/3. Here it is:

I know 0 people who use XF mounts. I know about 8 who use m4/3. If we want m4/3, we may just have to rally and make some noise on the Mitakon and MX Camera Facebook pages.

Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

I can't seem to find the conversation on their facebook page.

oscillian

@losad83 I'm on it!

losad83

Hey guys, a Mitakon/MX Camera rep responded to my inquiry about Nikon G-M4/3. Here it is:

I know 0 people who use XF mounts. I know about 8 who use m4/3. If we want m4/3, we may just have to rally and make some noise on the Mitakon and MX Camera Facebook pages.

Remember, the squeaky wheel gets the grease.

Gethinc

true, but its the only way to get iris control on g lenses isn't it? (or will be when someone releases a 4/3rds adapter)

Brian202020

@Gethinc

Sure you can do that. One adapter is always better than 2 tho, less likely to be any play.

Gethinc

For nikon g lenses - Is there any reason you couldn't use a canon mft lens turbo, and then add a canon to nikon g adaptor. In theory the flanges should all add up?

losad83 · Screen Shot 2013-06-19 at 2.37.41 PM.png

So it looks like they WILL have one for the G mount Nikons, but not for a few months.

Thread: http://www.sonyalpharumors.com/mitakon-lens-turbo-in-stock-and-for-sale-on-ebay/

losad83

From Mitakon:

"Hi, thank you so much for your message and we will send your message to development team. Thank you so much for you great help."

Not a resounding response, but at least we know someone's getting these.

I say we bombard them w/emails and make the LOCK<-->OPEN feature.

Won't be able to use the new Sigma 18-35 1.8 = dealbreaker.

losad83

Just emailed them. We'll see if they respond : /

losad83

{Regarding the Nikon to M4/3 mount}

I was wondering if anyone has tried to contact Mitakon about adding a LOCK<-->OPEN feature on the Lens Turbo.

It seems like it would definitely open them to wider market of users right?

If it's a dumb adapter that also lacks the LOCK<-->OPEN feature I'd probably be forced to buy the Metabones Speed Booster, which would be a shame.

Flaaandeeers

I've found this:

And the rumor that MFT Lens Turbo will be released in August.

chopnshoot

has anyone had blue dot issues?

BurnetRhoades

@balazer

This is obviously wrong, unless you believe the NEX is a much better camera than the 5D.

It isn't wrong. Re-read what you quoted. I'm talking about the lens.

balazer

But maybe we might get better results with this adapter in m43 land emulating ASP-C look than going for "Full frame" in Nex mount.

In terms of avoiding the edges of the image where the lens might not be as good of a performer, yes. But that's not the only factor.

On an NEX + SB you can expect good glass to be even better in almost every respect compared to the same lens mounted on something like a 5D.

This is obviously wrong, unless you believe the NEX is a much better camera than the 5D.

BurnetRhoades

No, because that still doesn't address the real issue here which is the lens. The relative performance on both formats, assuming a properly working lens booster, is dependent on the quality of the lens being used. We already know that the Metabones model works as advertised. This has been confirmed.

On an NEX + SB you can expect good glass to be even better in almost every respect compared to the same lens mounted on something like a 5D. If the lens was dodgy on a 5D it's going to still be dodgy on the NEX+SB with the potential to be slightly less so on a MFT + SB setup.

What we haven't seen is what this Mitakon version is actually doing. You have to know exactly what your lens is doing and is capable of before attempting to judge what the Mikaton adapter is doing.

Flaaandeeers

@BurnetRhoades Yeah, I know.
But maybe we might get better results with this adapter in m43 land emulating ASP-C look than going for "Full frame" in Nex mount.

BurnetRhoades

@Flaaandeeers dollars to donuts, that's just what that lens does in the corners and it's got nothing to do with the adapter. It's through the adapter that you're finally seeing (close to) the whole of the lens. Stills lenses weren't designed to be optimal (some not even good) at wide open but their faults, in the corners, are largely hidden on small aperture cameras.

Flaaandeeers

Yep, corners seem to suck a bit from what you can see in this thread, but even when charts may look quite bad WO with very fast lenses, real life pics are pretty nice in general for my untrained eye. So it seems to be a decent option for Minolta glass. And, actually, the only one since SB does not have a "pro" MC/MD alternative in its plans.
I hope we can test this for m43 mount soon.

http://www.fredmiranda.com/forum/topic/1216015/0

themartist

My tests on http://themartist.com/blog weren't by any means accurate and I think a lot has to be attributed to performance of FD lenses on the nex system...

Ultimately, wide open I reserve only for night shots when I might need an f1 aperture on my 50mm 1.4... loses all sharpness but a nice option to use (not abuse).

Alternatively, stopping down to f2 or f2.8 on the 50mm FD creates a really crisp 54mm field of view with an equivalent 1.4 or f2 aperture... definitely satisfactory on that level.

The 20mm f2.8 becomes a fantastically wide, fast lens which I absolutely love. Even wise open it performs quite well. Ultimately, between a canon FD adaptor and a lens turbo... and my 50mm 1.4 and 20mm 2.8 I can have the equivalent of 4 relatively compact lenses, all very portable. I'll leave my sigma 19mm and leica summicron at home and travel with one lens on the camera and the other in my bag... and thats it. Thats the part I love.

Its not perfect by any means, but neither is my skillset. I think, however it gives me powerful tools to create some amazing art and video in a very portable setup. I this respect, I think this Nex 7, lens turbo, Canon FD setup is the best combination of quality, portability and budget.

BurnetRhoades

Some of the the effects seen, particularly at wide-open, may not be the adapter's fault at all. Shooting so long through the "sweet spot" at the center of a lens may have given folks an unrealistic idea of how good that lens actually is, especially at wide open.

If they weren't also shooting with the lens under the same aperture on cameras for which the lens was actually designed they need to do a little research before laying fault at this (or the Metabones) adapter. Is it creating issues or is it revealing issues? The relevance of any review is dependent on the author maintaining constant awareness of this in their evaluation.

edit: if the reviewer isn't evaluating each lens with a 135 format reference camera (in the case of boosted APS-C review) or an APS-C format reference camera (in the case of boosted MFT review) I'm inclined to consider the review total rubbish.

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