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GH3 with AVCHD 2.0!
  • luaxluax
    Just came across this rumor on the 43rumors site
    http://www.43rumors.com/ft4-gh3-with-avchd-2-0/
    any first thoughts?
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  • stoneystoney
    I think higher MP and smaller sensor have a long way to go. Not that I want it in that way. The trend seems.
  • danyyyeldanyyyel
    I hope that they don't put more megapixel to compete against the nex7. A good 16 with lets say 1 stop better Iso and DR would be much better. A better larger high res viewfinder and back screen with peaking would be nice. less rolling shutter and a metal body, 60p. Most of it would be very nice upgrade. As for the codec I don't see us getting something better than 8 bit 4.2.0 unfortunately to protect the higher end video line. The bitrate can be hacked but unfortunately not the 8 bit and 4.2.0.
  • RRRRRRRR
    Global shutter for a m43 sensor would be a major breaktrough. Even if image quality otherwise was exactly the same as on the gh2 it would sell a lot of cameras. Even more so if the full 10 bit from the sensor was used for the captured output.

  • rainsrains
    @DouglasHorn

    Too right!! run & gun, on the move..
  • DouglasHornDouglasHorn
    I read a rumor somewhere that the GH3 would have a global shutter to eliminate jellocam. That would be very, very nice.
  • HaznaHazna
    Keep dreaming.
    fast 70-300 is impossible.
    There are already Fast Panasonic zooms in the making.
  • rainsrains
    2 things i'm very happy about is the Leica involvement and Lumix working with National Geographic, those 2 things up the GH status. A fast zoom would be nice 70-300mm perhaps.
  • rainsrains
    @stonebat
    @gabb3r
    @x_worpig_x

    One thing that does get a company working is competition, so hopefully because of the A77 it's specs and canons offerings, panasonic will step up to the plate for a home run with the GH3.
  • gabb3rgabb3r
    Judging from the rumors about Panny's new weather-sealed pro X lenses, I'd add weather-sealed upgrade for the GH3 on your liste Stonebat, might be a nice feature.
  • stoneystoney
    As GH13 raised the bar for GH2, GH2S raised the bar for GH3. GH3 might not have the high bitrate intra codec, but I'm sure it will have enough features enticing new customers. A metal body? Higher LCD/EVF resolution? Peaking? Much improved AWB giving fantastic skin color? 1080p60? All modes at 24Mbps or higher bitrate? AGC disabling option? A major advantage of vdslr over camcorder is more rapid progression. Let’s not underestimate the progress. Sony is sorta helping us get more from Panasonic. Go Sony!!!
  • x_worpig_xx_worpig_x
    @rains That's a damn fact!
  • rainsrains
    Not in my life time or in history that i know of have i seen a company give people what they want and need so i'm not even going to think about it. GH3 ha expect a lot of disappointment as usual.
  • julesjules
    @stonebat my thoughts exactly
  • DrDaveDrDave
    The quality can only go up, unlike Canon's HF200 which was worse than the HF100.
  • SkeptikalSkeptikal
    Just a new lot of cynical Techno Drip-feed from PanaSony. Given that some ENG video cameras are now shooting @ 880 mbps (to tape!)...28 mbps is very...er..."stingy" indeed.

    Purely a marketing driven dumbing-down exercise...certainly not a technology/engineering limitation. I'm sure AVCHD 2 could very easily have been at least 4:2:2; 10 bit; 50 mbps ( and hence meet the minimum BBC requirements for HD broadcast).

    Given the power of i7 Sandybridge CPU's, "consumerizing" bit rates to low levels is just a lame excuse...lowest common denominator BS.

  • stoneystoney
    Deja Vu
  • namtotnamtot
    i cant really see the gh3 being significantly better or even any better then the hacked gh2, besides the fact that it will be able to do 1080 60p.. and who knows, maybe we can get 1080 60p out of the gh2. all i know is that the gh2 is giving us a beautiful image and its a joy to shoot with, the only thing that could make this image better is an upgrade from 4:2:0 and 8 bit.. and thats not going to happen in a dslr unless its via hack.. sorry, your going to have to pay big bucks for that. i think people need to stop worrying about the next camera when the one we have now is very special.
  • nktdrnktdr
    If past product history cycle of the GH models are to be followed, the GH3 should officially be announced late August/early September and released in late November/early December. Not sure why people here are saying the GH3 will only be released Spring 2012 or later. I can't see Panasonic letting Sony flood the market with their AVCHD 2.0 models during the last quarter of 2011 before Christmas without competition.
  • bdegaziobdegazio
    Panasonic and Sony made a joint announcement on July 1 that AVCHD 2.0 would include 1080p50/60. It's not really any surprise that they're planning to include in their coming products the new features they themselves designed.

    As Vitaliy points out, their high-bitrate professional cameras use the MP4 container. AVCHD, despite all its good qualities, is still designed to be a trouble-free consumer format, hence the low bitrates. It's amazing that we're able to pull as much out of it as is happening now with the GH2.

    Still, I'm looking forward to 1080p60. It'd be fantastic to get it out of the GH2 a year before Panasonic can.
  • fatpigfatpig
    they dont say anything about 1080p50/60. In fact, looking at this, i see no improvement over hacked gh2 whatsoever. Can somebody really look at this and tell me whats better than gh2vk?

    edit: mind the columns :-D saw it. cheers.
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev
    Guys, remember that this is made up rumour.
    What can be very very far from reality.
    I don't see any foundation for this as latest panasonic compact cameras use MP4 container for high bitrates and do not use AVCHD.
  • DouglasHornDouglasHorn
    Meh. The announcement leaves me a little underwhelmed. I'm a lot more excited about how VK's hack turns my GH2s into whole new cameras -right now- than I am about some camera that may be available (in crippled form) in a year. I'm shooting with my GH2vk almost every day and check here often for word of more features.
  • alcomposeralcomposer
    Well I suppose that there is nothing saying that Panny will implement this?! Is there... Its like the HDMI issue on the GH2- HDMI 'can' do lots of things- doesn't mean that it will work... ;-(

    Lets not ask VK to hack the firmware of a camera that doesn't exist yet... (he may just do it!)
    However- I am still happy and excited about GH2VK...
  • RyanHojRyanHoj
    1080p 60 is the reason i want this thing as of now.
  • proaudio4proaudio4
    4:2:2 and i'll buy several of them.
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