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Official Panasonic GH3 topic, series 3
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  • @idbonilla It was reported here repeatedly that the all-I codecs are very poor - use the IPB or the AVCHD.

  • no they are all-i MOV 24p ;_;

  • ldbonilla , have you shot AVCHD?

  • 4 F-stop 50 shutter 1600 iso with the 14-140mm lens ;_; macroblocking on Christmas lights

  • Oh noes!!! My GH3 is macroblocking badly!! Today I went out to shoot Christmas lights with it and half the footage has macroblockiiiing ;_;

  • I presume, advantage of GH3 is the 60p 1080, do not know how good it is, not too many examples yet. image quality? (cameras all good, in relation to price GH2 probably best ever made, I own 7 cameras, DSLRs) So far GH3 just does not show "pitch perfect" imagery yet. Waiting for more good stuff from the colleagues.

  • What really gets me is that if people are seeing only a slight upgrade and are bashing the Gh3, why don't you disconnect and go buy the Gh2 for $400? I have the Gh3, but I've had it like a week. But in that week, just the build of the camera pulls me to it. Then I start playing around with the files from it and feel pretty confident of it's offerings. The files can really stretch. There are some issues with the Gh3. Aliasing is one of them. But 8/10 shots I look at I sit back and am sort of taken by the amount of info the camera delivers. Then I start to think of what it might do if Vitaly cracks it???? More power to the master!!!! I'm sure Shian will chime in more about this and we can see a good controlled test with comparatives. In any case, that to @Shian for going through the paces.

  • @shian, could you also say, it's a slight downgrade in some sense?

  • End of the world happened 2 days ago, lets see the results already!! :)

  • The GH3 has some advantages over the GH2. The EOTW Shootout will demonstrate those. I won't color the results by commenting further, but I see it as a slight upgrade in many categories, and a major upgrade in a few others.

  • Somehow @Butt knew he liked his GH2 better than the GH3 way back in September when no one had the camera. It's been the same thing from him since then, at least he's consistent... but yeah, we get it, your happy with your GH2, as we all have been with ours. My question for @Butt is: why are you even visiting the GH3 threads?

  • @Butt I think we all get the message now.....you will keep your GH2 and good for you.

  • @Butt... Were you watching the same video of the circus as I am? Artifacts? Ghosting? Blocky? I see a lowlight video with near impossible lighting mixtures gelled and a camera doing an incredible job ingesting it with rich color and a really decent DR holding some difficult highlights.

  • Where exactly have you seen the artifacts? Ghosting is not any cameras' problem, so it is wrong to talk about Ghosting as a camera's problem. The noise also is for sure less in GH3 than the hacked GH2.

  • @The Windcharger . . . Artifacts, ghosting, blocky. . . horrible -

    I think I keep my GH2

  • @jwalker @kob I did the same test tonight... And as @kob mentionned with a good projector or tv or even a pc screen forced to 24hz or 25hz... no more hickup with downloaded file (the vimeo compression is really crap). I'm gonna connect a led tv (my samsung monitor doesn't like other refresh rate than 59 or 60hz) as a second monitor tomorow to try but i'm very happy that it is not at all a problem with my beloved GH3 ;-). Does anyone know a good soft on mac os x to select the refresh rate (may be gonna start another topic for that).

  • @nomad, I am no video or display technology expert, but the 75 Hz is the vertical refresh rate, so I'd assume I'd see, at most, a jitter on no-panning view or during vertical panning - but that direction looks smooth. Jitters are always observed on only horizontal panning or horizontal object movements. Anyway, I will investigate this further. Thanks.

  • Of course not! How can a monitor with 75 Hz or 85 show 24 fps smoothly?

  • @jwalker:

    Do you have a standalone mediaplayer or a TV with mp4 HD playback? No computermonitor plays 24p, 25p and 50p correctly.

  • @fredfred27 thanks for the pointer. However, I don't have AE, so maybe my monitor (CRT at 75 Hz and also tried at 85 Hz) is not tuned correctly to the clip. I will try to find panning clips shot by other cameras to compare system-wise.

  • @Kob I just downloaded the mp4 of the Bragg Creek sample and cannot find the "jitter" that you are talking about at 1:03. If you mean that it "jitters" because you are playing a 23.976fps video on a 60Hz monitor, then yes, it will appear to jitter.

    I put the sample into After Effects and tracked a point on the left fence post. It tracked evenly across. If you have After Effects, try bringing the sample in and interpreting it as 29.97fps. When played back on a 60Hz monitor, it should not appear to "jitter".

  • In the Bragg Creek sample video posted earlier, one can see a very slight jitter of the left fence post at 1:03, as the camera pans to the right. I verified by looking at the downloaded mp4 file.