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Black Magic: Official $1,995 raw cinema camera topic, series 2
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  • vicharrisvicharris

    @itimjim Yep, just goes to prove any camera can look like shit! That guy needs to pull that down. Embarrassing.

  • itimjimitimjim

    @vicharris you're not wrong, the image is all out of focus. It looks like the whole thing was shot using the lens wide open at 1.2 with about a foot of ND in front of it, or it's focused past infinity. You can still see some fine detail captured, but it just look meh!

  • itimjimitimjim

    Excellent example. The uploaded MP4 shows some gradation in the blacks and sky, but that'll be the MP4 compression. Fine detail is superb though, without false resolution from sharpening. I fucking love this camera, can't wait for my mFT to come.

  • johnbrawleyjohnbrawley

    @cls105 i thought this was a pretty good example of good DR and a pushed grade....

  • BurnetRhoadesBurnetRhoades

    @vicharris

    Wow, it's like 75% of that video is out of focus. I had to turn it off because it started to hurt my eyes. Or maybe I'm just going blind!

    Not just you. I'm guessing either in-camera or (even worse) in post diffusion. Ugh, diffusion...

  • cls105cls105

    again, I really wanted some shots to have more highlight detail. Am I being too demanding of the bmc? Regardless, im a fan of the camera and dying for the mft version to be released so i can buy it.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    Wow, it's like 75% of that video is out of focus. I had to turn it off because it started to hurt my eyes. Or maybe I'm just going blind!

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • chauncychauncy

    There are a few indications in the latest posts on black magic related forum that they may be coming soon..

    For the MFT model, we want to get through some more of the EF orders before I give a date on when we will start getting the MFT orders out. They are ready to go, but we need to get through most of the early EF pre-orders first.

    you won't get anything from blackmagic, but people are reporting that mft are on the way.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Hi! Is there any indications about when BM starts to deliver MFT version?

    Nope. As I understand even EF delivery is being extremely slow.

  • blackspotblackspot

    Hi! Is there any indications about when BM starts to deliver MFT version?

  • GH2UWGH2UW

    Firmware 1.2 has just been released:

    • Canon lens F-stop display on the monitor.
    • ExFAT file system support for SSD media (for PC users).
    • SDI output now supports RP-188 timecode.
    • Timelapse interval recording.

    Still waiting for my camera...

  • fixfix

    @cls105 I believe you are a bit hard on the camera :) Dragon sensor will most probably be much better dealing with higher DR, but the black magic cam is far from bad. What is to hot or not.. ? Even the f65 can make the sun look hot.

    Regard tone mapping, I think "big sur" is a good example of how far you can take it with a flat profile and high bitrate output regardless what technic. It's hard to make it this clean with a compresed sub 10DR/ 8bit source. Not impossible, but hard.

  • cls105cls105

    big sur does look great for a 3 grand camera. but i still feel like some footage looks tone mapped to me and some highlights still seem too hot. I think red dragon DR will be something well be craving in the near future.

  • bannedindvbannedindv

    That is for bad overexposure like pointing at the sun. Never seen it in any other highlights like Christmas lights. Maybe if you are way overexposing some like arc welding Christmas lights or something...? I wouldn't worry.

  • AriaAria

    I thought the Black Sun Spot issue was an example of overexposure.

  • rockroadpixrockroadpix

    Why is it not evident in the two sunset vids that have been posted here? @johnbrawley - Was it removed in post? I don't really plan on shooting into the sun. The small light bokeh issue would give me pause for concern.

  • nomadnomad

    That sounds bad!

  • shianshian

    It would happen on bokeh from little lights as well, like x-mas lights when shooting with the Red One. Pictured: is it happening with just the bokeh on the highlights of a silver watch in this shot. Shot at ISO 800 with an Arri 650 and the Red 50-150 zoom @ T3.0 - see the little pinholes in the bokeh, but the highlights themselves would not turn black, just the bokeh center.

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  • nomadnomad

    The RED One had the same "black sun" issue in early firmware builds. They soon got over it, but until then it was easy to track and cover since it happened only in fully blown-out highlights.

  • fixfix

    Wow.. The "Meet Me In Big Sur" flick really show of the benefits of 12bit raw. Lovely footage.

  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    @jasonp It won't stop me from buying it, but it is silly. I'm hoping it was early builds because I really doubt a FW update will fix it.

  • BurnetRhoadesBurnetRhoades

    "gave some new air to breed"?

    That right there, that's awesome. Photography and grading so good it made a dude horny.

  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    As anybody seen the video of the BMCC vs RED Scarlet? in the first clip of the BMCC there is a black dot in the middle of the sun. I will try and find the video again, but as anybody noticed this in any other videos or has this been discussed already?

  • leonbeasleonbeas

    Uff that is a professional work, I'm so tyred of shaky bad exposed and horrible composed footage that this gave some new air to breed, and indeed this camera in proper hands and with enough time can do amazing things.

    ;)

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