@CFreak I did a 10 day shoot with the BMCC last week, in temperatures above 35 degrees Celsius and for most of the day, the camera was too hot to touch, but it just kept going with no sign of instability.

Hurlbut with some nice skin tests etc....

http://www.hurlbutvisuals.com/blog/2013/08/blackmagic-cinema-camera-tests/

I bailed on the 4k , my MFT will be here probably on Mon. CANNOT wait!

@andyharries I rented a BMCC EF with three lenses, one of which was the 85mm. It was very frustrating that it simply wouldn't focus -- which made my decision to buy the MFT version so much easier. Manual focus with Nikon lenses all the way, baby. (Although I've also been happily using the SLR Magic and Voigtlander lenses too.)

Ok, I took some stuff out...

p.s. anyone using the word noob, probably isn't part of the industry, otherwise they would know that there are many significant professionals using these tools..anyway again, it's just sad.

Well, I was using "noob" to be facetious, but since you brought it up...

Anyone who thinks that EVERYONE in the industry magically knows what they are doing and is infallible... must not be in the industry.

It doesn't matter how many "significant" pros are using what... not everything (and not all people) are measured on an absolute objective level. That was the whole point of my other posts. You have to judge things for yourself.

If you're a pro you should understand that there are other significant reasons one would would use Canons.

Any they are? What? What exactly do pros understand about Canon DSLRs that makes them special?

If you're such a pro, you wouldn't be talking like this, I can bring you my IMDB credits of movies having won Palm d'or, can you :-)

Who cares? You could be Tarintino himself trolling message boards and I'll still tell you the same thing. Does being a "pro" mean you have to adhere to certain ideas?

@bwhitz You are totally right, but I've started to keep most of the producers I work with up to speed on current technology (sometimes I just straight up email them links to B&H online shop). I'd like to think that most of the time they trust my opinion. I shoot most of my smaller projects with GH2s, but I had some 'splainin to do the first couple of times I built one up at a bigger gig, but these days, mostly I'm expected to have my hacked GH2 around somewhere nearby, because once they see the footage they know it's no joke. As for the BMCC's, they are under the radar right now because of limited quantities, but I don't think they will be in the dark for long... specs and footage like that speaks for itself... Looks like we'll be using BMCC's (and BMPCC's likely too) on a TV series later this year, which was an easy sell with a cost/quality demonstration.

Yeah, that's why the industry is using them, you got it

Basically yea... it is just marketing and popularity. They're "good enough" quality, popular, and easy to use. That's it. N00bz can get better results out of the canon's out of the box than with a GH2 and producers only care about "buzz"... as 90% of them are dumb as shit and only "networked" to their positions... you can show them a clip from a GH2 that looks like Red Scarlet... but they'll still rather use a 5D for the next shoot... because the 5D's were out first and they've simply just "heard of a 5D" before. Spend 2 days in LA and it'll all make sense. Do you really need legions of people owning a particular camera to convince you? The Blackmagic cams (although they're only been out for a year) have GOBS more IQ than canon DSLRs... but will they be used as much, even if shipping in full volume? Nope. Probably not. Too intimidating for the n00bz and producers haven't heard of them as much... or at all.

@bwhitz

Exactly, the many videos using Canon means nothing else than Canon's mighty marketing power steamrolling over everything else with their army of fanboys mopping up the remains.

Black Magic...just give BMCC early adopters a free Pocket Cinema Cam! :)

@jasonp you have to be taking into account ML, otherwise your comment regarding video with no moire is rubbish. ML is the only thing that makes a 5D relevant today and it has a lot of caveats, like anything else. Some people will suck it up and deal with it and others will opt for a more fluid solution.

If you're not talking ML-RAW you're talking about a camera that has been spanked by the GH2 since its release in almost every category but low light. But you can't seriously be talking about shooting a non-hacked 5D, can you? That would be foolish outside industrial or online applications where image quality is more forgiving.

Why even bring up its 8bit 4:2:2 out in a thread about a camera that records 10bit 4:2:2? Personally, it would be difficult for me to ever make myself shoot to ProRes on this camera but let's be real. The FF aesthetic can be achieved even with this camera provided enough ND with one of several Noktor/Nokton lenses. That's the lone feather in the 5D's cap that isn't dependent on ML fixing what Canon screwed up on the camera.

Shooting raw means grading and processing and unfortunately this camera, like early Red, like early Alexa, was marred by people who didn't know how to deal with the footage, releasing flat, poorly graded imagery. But the whole while there have been plenty of examples created by better folks at the wheel in post production who prove operator error does not define the look of any camera.

Troll on.

bought a used 5D M2 two years ago with for 900,-€ due to unremovable white paint spots on the body from a shoot in industrial ambiance. Sold it last week for 899,-€ Bummer.

5D M3 is a great camera - for stills. Sometimes I use it as a B-Cam for portraits and it works very well for this purpose too.

back to BMD topics .. ;-)

Yes, is a piece of art like most Nauticam housings. Check the Piano keyboard on some Canon models.

Rumors say that a BMPCC housing will be released soon.