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Driftwood Settings, Series 5: Cluster v6 ULTRA RELIABLE, Mysteron, Crossfire, Quantum 9B, Sedna...
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  • @konjow Cluster v5 spans for me on a quick test without problems.

    Spanning Cluster 720p50: Ive just setup my razor sharpe OM 50mm 1.2 Macro lens at f5.6 on Cluster v5 with loads of detail - not maximum- but as good as I could find at this time of night - and then proceeded to shake the fuck out of it - yet it still spanned over two files without problem (to 20 minutes before I got bored and stopped the recording). As Ive mentioned in the past, if you use strange or incorrect shutter speeds with the frame rate you are likely to suffer such problems. The 720p50 20 minute files recorded at a bitrate of 43M creating two files one at 4,192,486 (4Gb) and one spanned file 2,025,432 before I manually stopped it.

    There is of course a bitrate stopping point on the GH2 where it runs out of memory fuel but its highly unlikely as its a well matched to bitrate setting. My guess is you chose an irregular shutter speed causing an upset in the odd B frames. Of course, I need to check your file.

  • @driftwood Do you like to see GH2 footage "untouched" directly out of camera ...or with color correction, grading, sharpening and other post-edit enhancements? What format provides the best feedback for you to create better settings for the GH2?

    For posting videos on 'Personal-View.com', what is an unacceptable video?

  • Yes, it does.

    Even at -2 sharpening is not completely off (at least with Panny lenses). Don't think that -2 is anything like anti-sharpening ;-)

    The only value you should set higher than -2 is saturation, according to your taste. If your scene is very low contrast, you can up contrast a bit too. But don't use sharpness or noise reduction at all, there are better tools in post if it's needed at all.

  • @thepalalias I understand that -2 is an adjustment within the appearance settings, but which ones are most common to set down -2? Surely not sharpness, right? And what are the reasons? Does the GH2, set a 0-across, make the video look bad by applying effects like noise reduction?

  • @konjow Can you send me the stop recording mts? I wanna see this. Cheers mate. :-) Also please report that you definitely stayed within the confines of 25/50/100 shutter speed. This is important. So many new users reporting lately. Keep reporting any errors until we get this totally perfect.

  • Just patched my GF2 with Cluster v5 ... it's amazing for low light too :-)

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  • @driftwood First of all thank you very much for developing long gop patch as is cluster. I really like it. short test of Cluster 5 Pal 25p test, no CC and with CC - actually Im learning CC now, so criticism more when welcome.

    not nice feedbacks: 1. 25p does not span on sandisk 30mbs 2. 25p Stop recording "motion..speed... error"-ones 3. 720p50 freeze image after few minutes of recording, battery out- 1.5gb size

    thanks again

  • @Ebacherville , i will be testing Cluster v5 on GF2 also, but i doubt it has support for this great matrix ...

  • Anyone try Cluster v5 on GF2 or GF3, I have both bodies and would be more than willing to try it on them if someone has not.. I'll be putting Cluster v5 on my personal GH2

    Also, I have been shooting on cluster v4 at work on the GH2s, but I'm in the middle of a project right now and will wait till that is finished till I upgrade those. But very very happy with Cluster v4 on the GH2s at work, superb quality and flawless long shoot performance!

  • @Sangye very nice footage and +1 on Driftwood's comment

    @driftwood Isis is thinking..... "should I chase the one on the right or the left hmmm.... let's see which is easier :)". btw, thank you for all your contributions!

  • @driftwood , big thank you for the Cluster v5, this is going to stay on my GH2 :-)

  • Some exceptional testing results of Cluster v5 against the best of any other settings beyond GOP1 will be published this weekend.

    @Sangye I love your footage - your dog seems deep in thought - contemplating its place in the moment, the universe... the prospect of this great height - I wonder what this dog (Isis?) is thinking... very dramatic - and then his/her senses of its whereabouts towards the end as it turns... and the other dog who has not a care... Superb moment captured. Exceptional. And it looks great. Well done.

  • Another Sedna video. What impressed me looking over this footage was the dynamic range. The sun was exceptionally bright, but I was able to expose for the sky without crushing the shadows one bit.

  • Ah, now I left out Skintone - I really like Canis Skintone matrix. Lets not forget that one.

    Cluster note: You don't have to lessen the bitrate settings on any of the Clusters. These are set to the highest testing/highest detail I could muster without failing. Most footage as in facial shots, run and gun, average scenery detail will utilise a lot lower bitrate automatically. The quality is measured - as in it will use bitrate according to detail.

  • The drollness-ridden smirk of drewnetwork will now be unstoppable.

  • So sedna a aq1 over the newest crossfire VY Canis Majoris 'Skintone matrix' + Cluster Setting ?

  • @thepalalias @DeshonDixon Canis majoris day pm is a reduced value of luma and coma from cm night matrix. Which handles light a bit softer. The color and detail matrix of all canis series is the same only difference falls on lighting. details and color matrix of daypm dayam and night are the same. If they are different you will suffer in post atleast in color and details of each shot.canis majoris sst is a diffirent patch it holds more if soften up matrix which is meant only for closeup and mid angle portraits on people.if you are taking a closeup dialog mid range conversation shot girl romance personality style etc u use sst. ;) The thing I found from canis majoris night is it actually improves low light shooting. In low light indoor light night street studio high light u will require iso. It depends on u r condition the lux u get out of your available lights. in day u don't require iso at all.you can keep it in 200 or less.when you require iso canis majoris night plays its role. That's why it's meant as canis majoris night. The name doesnt means anything to do with only night But it actually means that this patch can perform well with low light darkness artificial light it does its work by maximizing your luma and coma values.the maximum value in matrix for light capturing. Light is everything a camera requires so canis night is the best for its extreme fundamentalism. apature can also be adjusted like @thepalalias said but it will affect other lens oriented features jn your shot like sharpness edge distortion bokeh and light so keep things according to requirement.with shutter you can affect 3 things light natural and artificial, speed of subject, sharpness on moving object. always use ND4 filters nd8 is a over kill nd2 makes u need more of it. I hope this helps.thx

  • Just a slight addendum to what @rajamalik said. Many of us prefer to do the compensation with aperture as opposed to shutter, but both methods can work of course. I am just one of those guys that goes to great lengths to get as close to 180 degree shutter as I can most of the time. :)

  • @rajamalik Thanks I've never even tried Canis Night before I just heard it was for night and thought night only so I didn't touch it. What about Canis PM?

  • @retrospective take Sedna A AQ1 for max details. 100% assured

  • @DeShonDixon who said canis majoris night wont work in day???? this is funny. very very funny. it do work in day with a little more light in the shot, because of its coma and luma adjustments. all u need is to add 25+ or more in shutter speed. example if you are taking a shot in 1/50 you will require 1/80 for canis majoris night. slight light touch is there. it uses maximum possible light in your shot so you need the shutter speed to get the perfect exposure. i compared canis majoris night with sedna A personally over 3 shoots. because i own 2 gh2. i initially started canis majoris night in one cam and sedna A in other.if you have doubt do this way.

    1. take sedna A shoot in a spot at day light morning som shots and afternoon some shots.
    2. second day take canis majoris night do the same take the same shots at the same time, make sure there aint any clouds.
    3. convert both canis majoris and sedna A footage in apple prores 422 hq or cineform.
    4. load them all in your nle co color correction and desired grading use any nle and plugins depends on how they support cineform and prores. (final cut pro x or 7 for prores or premiere, vegas or aftereffect for cineform).

    5.now render them in maximum quality. 6.watch it by yourself.6. now tell other how canis killed sedna A.

    @obscura @thepalalias @xp50 @sohus

    sir @driftwood already refined it to its max. my friend @obscura tried to improve many settings from the master. i was inspired by obscura and tried some techniques yesterday, which i learned from him ;).but after intensive test i realized that sir driftwood maximized canis night. i found an error or a purposeful setup in the default canis majoris patch too.

    @driftwood sir you had experimented the mjpeg frame rate adjustment in canis majoris night. canis night mjpeg only records 2 frames because of this. everyone who has canis majoris can now set the framerate of mjpeg from 30 to 24 or 24 to 30 using 720p30->720pXfps=2 this is default u can set it to 24 or to 30. it works.simply remove this line 720p30->720pXfps=2 from the ini file you will get 30fps mjpeg.

    @driftwood superb sir, you are a genius. i realized that i should never ever try something out of your patches. if i am skilled i should try on my own he he,..from 0. not from your patches. your patches are unique and at its max.i apologize for whatever i did sir. i am not supposed to touch your patches. you are very generous to welcome and encourage me to modify it.

    @driftwood but in one day i learned some very important things which is very common and everyone should know. 1.1080p24 Frame Limit=6088080 this line here decides how much your frames are taken up. the more this is the more you get the iframe count towards i900. the difference between mysteron and mysteron burst lies here.

    2.1080i Top Setting=98828 1080i Bottom Setting=83179 these 2 lines decides the peak bitrate so the 1080i falls between 83mbit to 98mbit. which is also matched with Video Bitrate FSH/SH=100600000.all these 3 lines are worked connectively. raising only one line wont change anything better.

    1. @driftwood the biggest doubt i got from canis majoris night is here Video Bitrate FH/H=64000000 if its is 64mbit the top and bottom should be below this rite i mean more or equal to 64mbit?? but here it goes 720p Top Setting=96402 720p Bottom Setting=75394 if the top is in 96mbit. why the bitrate is in 64mbit?? sir i am sry if i asked anything wrong.

    @driftwood thank you for teaching the ways to me.

  • AQ1 Max detail VS Q20 Max Detail? Any opinions on anyone who made further testing? Thanks guys!

  • @L1N3ARX very very nice

  • Went on a hike yesterday and shot some stuff with Mysteron. Didn't have time to update to the latest patch, although it would have been nice check out some of the newer releases. Thanks again Driftwood!

  • Just stopped in to leave a note about "Cluster v4 12/15GOP variation" and saw the Globular release. There's more running water around here than you can shake a GH2 at -- I'll mess with it this weekend. I don't know anything about that "drewnetwork" guy -- but I'll bet the bastard's head won't fit through doors when he hears he's got a Driftwood "settings" dedication.

    Anyway -- REGARDING Cluster v4 12/15GOP variation...

    Today we shot footage for a television ad for a charity that helps children and adults with developmental disabilities (formerly known as "retarded"). We used Cluster V4 12/15GOP. It'll be on regional television within weeks.

    I really can't say enough good things about V4 12/15gop. The images are spectacular -- and in terms of "holding up" in post -- it absolutely trounces ALL-I footage from a 5D Mark 3. I've just come off of hours adjusting levels and curves -- and raising gamma, gain, and pedestals. Eventually I was just throwing crap at the footage to see it break down -- and it didn't (all of this in Premiere CS6).

    I've attached a frame from today's footage to this post. That's a teacher working with a developmentally disabled young adult. I downscaled the dimensions -- that's it -- that's how the footage looks coming out of the camera.

    So -- the point of this note was to praise V4 12/15gop and to encourage any of you who haven't messed with it to give it a try -- BUT -- it appears this point is now obsolete with V5. So, yeah -- give V5 a try!

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