Does the in-cam playback work with Cluster v6? I'm still tinkering around with Cluster v4. To get in-cam playback to work, I power the GH2 down and then back up again. This somehow allows me to view playback through the GH2's display. This solution has worked for me with both slow and fast memory cards.

i can find the patch Cluster v6...??!!!

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@SuperSet I'm not asking you to change - if you like Sanity - stay with it. Most beta work has gone into 720p and HBR modes for v6 - our team wanted all modes working (inc. iA and iDynamic) with better quality and better motion (bigger p and b frames!). Cluster 24pH is extremely good on scenic detail & motion.

The scene you depict I wouldn't say is too overtaxing - what was the bitrate for each and the chart data?

Sanity v5 is a good quality hack with insanely low bitrate. So you can shoot for a long time, especially on a card like this: goo.gl/gbQf4

On the other hand, Cluster v6 is excellent at being economical, as well. I am shooting a timelapse of clouds over NYC now (on the card as above), and after 3hrs of shoot (all spanned fine), I still see about 40min left on the card indicator. Most likely, this estimate will actually translate into a couple hours more. Granted, we are talking about the wide shot of, basically, a landscape with only slow and slight changes over time - the holy grail of long GOP.

Now, to compare the hacks, ideally you should have two identically set cameras, with the only difference being that they'd have different hacks installed. Shoot different setups, then drop both videos on timeline in a high-end editor (I actually do it in AE), and pixel peep :)

@Superset: Could you post up a streamparser screengrab for the mts file you shot on Cluster v6? Alternatively, use a bitrate proggie like MediaInfo or Videospec (free off the internet) to tell you the Mbps info. Many thanks. The reason I say this is this: Cluster's top Bitrate is indeed 90M+ but ONLY when required. I need to confirm that your test shot actually used that data rate. Its purely for research - cus Im interested. Thanks for your test.

@SuperSet Thought summit was up!!! :-) Thanks. As you can see by your charts there's much more allocated across the GOP to detail & movement in Cluster. Come to the grading I think I know which one I'd rather use. However, Sanity v5 is very economical and has its uses.

@artiswar Nothing rude I hope?! ;-)

@driftwood. When you release Cluster v6 (6GOP), please explain the differences between CL v6 6GOP and CL v3 6GOP. Thanks in advance.

@MisterBink swiitch over to PAL mode in the cameras tools menus 'Video mode = PAL'. Any settings with the 'PAL<->NTSC Menu=' Checked will enable you to switch modes. Thus, switch modes, turn off camera, turn back on and reformat a sdcard to that country mode. Record away in 1080i, HBR or 720p to notice the change to 50 frames.

@Zaven13 Much more stability on all REC modes and extreme modes such as Etc, iA and iDynamic. Plus better quality&motion on 1080i/HBR/720 modes.

@driftwood Hey Nick, as a quiet but fervent admirer of your amazing work, I was wondering if there are particular reasons why none of you recent settings are 3GOP for 24p (I understand that there are quite a few settings in that arena, but I'd love to see your take on a 3GOP for 24p shooters...:-).

Did 3GOP 6 months ago! ;-) The reason is as you suggest, to be fair there's already well grounded settings from bkmwcd and lpowell - both excellent 3 GOPs.

Besides, I wanted to see how far 12/15 GOP could be pushed and if you think about it - anything in AVCHD above 30M+ for HBR, 40M+ for 720 and 70M+ for 24p working reliably like Cluster v6 does is much better than the old mpeg 35M 12/15 Long GOP standards from yore such as the once 'pro' codecs found in Sony EX Camcorders, Canon cams, etc...

6GOP Cluster is looking very good too and will be out v soon.

Probably about right methinks @MiisterBink