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GH2 Flow Motion v2 - 100Mbps Fast Action Performance & Reliability for Class 10 SD cards
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  • CavemandudeCavemandude

    For my purposes, I can't use 100Mbit. With the same scene, I don't have a banding problem with the 44Mbit patch and it was around 30Mbit when playing back just like the Flowmotion patch was using the FH setting. I was just wondering why would there be banding with Flowmotion patch and not the other patch at the same data rate. There was a significant difference.

    Randy

  • CameraEnthusiastCameraEnthusiast

    I have a GH2, with a hack, my friend installed. I wanna install this new patch. Since I have absolutely not idea, how to go about with installing a patch, could someone tell me, step by step. I have a card reader, on my laptop. Do I still need any other device, for installing the patch? Also, could you Please tell me, in very simple steps, how to go about with things. Thanks in Advance

  • LPowellLPowell

    @Cavemandude To minimize banding high bitrates are sometimes required. Rather than using Flow Motion's 60Mbps FH video mode, I'd recommend trying its 100Mbps FSH mode.

  • wilcovdakkerwilcovdakker

    Have asked again but i am really interested.... Love FM 2.02 but is it possible to shoot anamorphic with it? I just bought myself a Kowa 2X anamorphic lens and looking foreword of playing with it. Can i do so with FM?

  • 4CardsMan4CardsMan

    @LPowell - It is not at all clear that the problem is or was fragmentation. The two 45mb/s cards were problematic from day one, one more than the other. Previously, I formatted them in camera before each use, with no improvement. Based on my experience in enterprise support, it is entirely possible that the problem was a process error during manufacture, of which Sandisk was unaware because their clueless support people are so busy pushing back that they cannot send bad news upstairs. As far as best practice moving forward is concerned, my instincts are the same as yours and RockHunter's - format, not delete, but my experience with in-camera formatting has not been good. I am perfectly willing to sacrifice principle for a good result. As a practical matter, the only time I clear a card in the field is when testing - for real work, everything gets moved to disk before I clear the card, in which case SDFormatter is available.

  • CavemandudeCavemandude

    Why would I get heavy banding in overcast skies with the Flowmotion patch at FH 1080 60i and not with EOSHD 44Mbit Vanilla patch at 1080 60i? Hope it is a simple setting I messed up on.

    Randy

  • peternappeternap

    @LPowell I've noticed that FM2.2 seems to cut haze distortion over water better than any of the other settings I've tried Lee.

    It doesn't make any sense to me why it would, but it seems that way time after time. Is this my imagination or is there some basis for it.

  • LPowellLPowell

    @CurtisMack As you discovered, with high-bitrate patches it's important to guard against SD memory card fragmentation. However, using the trash button to delete video clips will not necessarily keep the card free of fragmentation. I'd recommend using the GH2 to reformat the SD card before each important shooting session.

  • kentkent

    I should have added that all video is in HBR mode.

  • kentkent

    I have been using FM2.02 for a month now in two GH2s (one Japanese, one Australian). One is used entirely underwater in a Nauticam housing. Cards are Sandisk 64Gb 95Mb. To date, the cameras have not missed a beat. Detail and general quality are superb. Thank you for a great patch.

  • RockHunterRockHunter

    @CurtisMack I would suggest after using the SDFormatter, you need to format again using the camera. Then format with the camera periodically after using the camera. How often? Depends on how much you used it. I do mine about every third outing. Then I also suggest using the SDFormatter occasionally. I use it about every 3 months.

  • 4CardsMan4CardsMan

    At first, FlowMotion V2.02 choked after 10 seconds or so in 24H on my Sandisk 45mb/s 16 GB cards, shooting my death scene, surf breaking on rocks. Per LPowell's documentation, 24L worked fine. After formatting with SDFormatter, 24H presents no problem. Even EX TELE works. When running SDFormatter, I chose the Overwrite option, which took about 20 minutes to complete. In the past, I have always formatted in camera to clear the card. From now on, I intend to leave the card's format intact and use the trash button to delete everything, that is, when I don't have access to SDFormatter.

  • L1N3ARXL1N3ARX

    Another fun test with a different grading style. Loving Flow Motion right now, so easy to grade and edit, and scrubbing in my time-line is now a breeze without the ultra high bit-rate.

  • PixCanFlyPixCanFly

    @L1N3ARX You are good! Very filmic.

  • sam_sticklandsam_stickland

    OK, I finally tested with FlowMotion v2 and I didn't get any of the PPro timeline responsiveness issues I had back in February :)

  • L1N3ARXL1N3ARX

    Having fun grading some flow motion V2.02 footage. Trying to go for an organic film-like look here.

  • nomadnomad

    No, HBR is progressive content encoded as interlaced, 1080i is real interlace.

  • tinbeotinbeo

    What is the different of HBR and 1080i mode on GH2? Aren't their the same? Media info showed both setting as 1920x1080, 29.97

  • carlesmbcarlesmb

    Thanks @nomad. Then, all of clips recorded with HBR are real progressive.

    Sorry for that stupid question, It's a bit confusing for us, the begginers, to understand the equivalences of hacked modes and the original modes, I'm keep learning.

  • nomadnomad

    You'll need to "lie" to the NLE. HBR is progressive footage (i.e. from every 25th of a second) but encoded as interlace.

  • carlesmbcarlesmb

    Sorry in advance for my newbiest. I'm looking for a 1080/25p patch and I tested a few of it in HBR mode like LPowell Flowmotion 1.1 or Quantum. When I insert one clip recorded in HBR in the StreamParser, the stream mode say that it is 1080/50i, and this is usual as can I view in the users screenprints of another patchs.

    Adobe Premiere (for example) don't recognize the progressive mode, an says that is interlaced. Anyone can help me? Thks

  • TheRuggedAdventurerTheRuggedAdventurer

    @soulkeeper Thanks! I shot RAW. Smooth -2, -2, -2, -2. White balance with 18% gray card. ISO 160. I didn't drag my shutter correctly, because I had no idea what I was doing at the time haha. Also ND filter helps

  • CavemandudeCavemandude

    Oops, had my HDMI cable still plugged in. All solved.

    Randy

  • CavemandudeCavemandude

    I've got Flow Motion installed but I can't get into the "Rec Mode" to change it 720P. What setting is preventing access to this menu?

    Randy

  • soulkeepersoulkeeper

    @TheRuggedAdventurer Amazing!! Any tips for settings used to make the timelapse?

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