Do I live in a cave, or did they skip the GF4?

ISO comparaison : GF5) http://www.fotopolis.pl/index.php?n=14692 GF3) http://www.fotopolis.pl/index.php?n=13427&p=6

Yes 4 means death in Japan, kinda how hotels some places don't have 13th floors. I had a nice conversation about this just yesterday since I came across these at softmap in tokyo. I was with the misses on a promise I was only checking one thing, so I didn't have time to fiddle with the controls to see what was all there.. plus it's always tricky trying to guess through the Kanji menu. I will try to get a better look soon.

Do we know for sure yet if the GF5 supports manual exposure for video? (in the way that the GF2 does not) If there is now way to control ISO, iris, and shutter speed manually (all at the same time) then we still have a show-stopper here, IMHO.

Workarounds requiring 1/60 shutter speed and manual lenses and hard limit ISO 100 settings, and not even pseudo-manual. Manual control means that I get to choose. Not the workaround. Not the computer.

(Do we really think that Panny is afraid of too many tech support calls from people that try to use manual exposure and don't like the results? Why would that be a bigger issue for video than for stills?)

Why do they go to such great lengths to say "full manual control" without an asterisk pointing to the fine print saying "stills only?" They do a perfectly good job of qualifying the "1080 60i* (sensor output is 30fps)" bit.

ISO comparison with G3 and other entry mirrorless

http://www.focus-numerique.com/test-1409/compact-panasonic-gf5-bruit-electronique-12.html

And another review:

http://www.ephotozine.com/article/panasonic-lumix-dmc-gf5-mirrorless-review-19305

@stonebat

Btw, GF5 is next in line after G3 and GX1 release.

Wow... GF5. I can't find color noise from those original jpgs. Panasonic did superb job.

Photos by Oh Sun Kwon. http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=panasonic_forum&page=4&divpage=22&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=117358

That's good price considering that it was just released. I'm hoping for $200 body only :)

The high-res LCD + UNI loupe sound great.

Yeah you will like photos from GF5. I know Pentax K-5 guy who likes GF5 a lot. He said its auto WB works fantastic, and color noise processing at high ISO is excellent. And color... finally beautiful color out of the body without much tweaking.

http://www.slrclub.com/bbs/vx2.php?id=panasonic_forum&page=3&divpage=22&select_arrange=headnum&desc=asc&no=117645

What about skin tone color from OOC JPG photo and MTS? AWB good?

It seems gf5 has awesome OOC color. g5, too. Prolly gh3, too.

Nothing groundbreaking... but I don't mind refinement at all.

Sorry if my question sounds a bit dumb .. but the "official specs" of GF5´s factory firmware video setting seem to be yet somewhat unclear and contradictory. Some say it is 1080i some 1080p .. depends on where you look.

Ok, fair enough, thnx. But what about the "25p output" or in "25p wrapper" -thing (in AVCHD) mentioned here´n´n there?

Anyone has shot mp4 much? Does it go well edited with AVCHD? Somewhere I saw mentioned that it is somewhat less detailed...?

My main tool is GH2 but I loved my GF2 too - which did pretty well as a B-roll cam, until the unfortunate hack threw cold water on it. Looking at the early tests GF5 could do much better, specially with the somewhat glutinous AF - specially compared to GH2. I shoot mainly moving things/people, and I move my cam most of the time, and GH2 is a beast on that specially with f 2 - f 2.8 lenses,