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Lilliput Monitor with histogram, focus assist, zebras
  • PixCanFlyPixCanFly

    This new Lilliput 7" 5D-II-O-P packed in a lot of pro feature for a good price. I heard it's US300 + shipping

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    • Resolution 1024 X 600 supports 1920 X 1080
    • Peaking Filter
    • False Colors
    • Zebra Stripes
    • Histogram
    • 1:1 Pixel Mapping
    • Color Bars
    • 4x Zoom
    • Underscan/Overscan
    • Freeze Frame
    • 4xZoom
    • Image Flip
    • Selectable Aspect Ratio

    P version is with HDMI pass through (OUT) :

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    640 x 199 - 30K
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  • TGDudeTGDude

    After being told by VIVITEQ for 2 weeks that they are working on a solution to the problem, they are now calling it a "normal issue" and are offering a refund. So I'm thinking this won't get fixed unless Lilliput offers a firmware upgrade above 1.8.

    I'll probably keep it and deal with the annoyance of needing to turn the (overly sensitive) histogram on in order to view high quality. I would consider that H056 monitor from the other thread, but that one doesn't have a zoom or 1:1 pixel modes. That's a deal breaker for me because I like to be sure my focus is sharp, especially if the screen is H056 screen is 5.6" compared to Lilliput's 7"

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @zzanttiago Stay away from the lilliput for sure till they get whatever is going on figured out. As Vitaliy said, that one he has on the deals page looks pretty good and the price is pretty damn good too.

  • zzanttiagozzanttiago

    Thanks.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @zzanttiago

    One in our deals. It is better than Lilliput and Feelworld, believe me.

  • zzanttiagozzanttiago

    I'm planing to buy a cheap monitor, I'm between feelworld and lilliput monitors. What do you thing? which one is better?. thanks

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @TGDude I contacted Lilliput customer to ask them what's the deal with it and they wanted to know my invoice number. Apparently they only provide customer support if you buy directly from them. They stopped responding to my emails now after several attempts. This is one thing I will not stand for in a company. Since I was smart enough to purchase it off of amazon prime, I just sent the P.O.S. back to them to deal with. That's it for me and this company for good. I have an older nice Marshall that I can fall back on, thank god!

    Also about going from SD to HD, once you're in HD, you can't change any of the color or temp settings in the user menu! So once you actually see what it looks like in HD, you have to go back to SD to change anything, then go back to HD, see what it looks like there and so on. Also what's up with that crazy blue color temp change when it goes in HD? Something is going on here and I would suggest everyone hold your roll till they get it figured out. Does your also cut off about 5% of the screen edge? Mine did and I couldn't do anything to change it. Oh, good ol Marshall. :)

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @vicharris You hear anything useful from Lilliput?

    I contacted Lilliput UK and they told me to contact the reseller (VIVITEQ on Amazon). VIVITEQ said they're still working to find a solution and confirmed that my firmware is 1.8 based on the product serial number.

    I didn't return the monitor yet because I really need to shoot some things soon and I don't want to wait 2 weeks or however long it would take to ship to them and get a new monitor back, and still not know if it's an issue with the firmware or a defect in the monitor.

    I figured out that I can use Peaking with high image quality if I first turn on the Exposure or Histogram and then press the function button for Peaking. The actual functionality of the Exposure/Histogram will be gone, but the image quality will stay high. As soon as I turn off Peaking, the image quality drops again and I must turn on either Histogram or Exposure to get the high quality back. It's annoying but now usable at least.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    Ahh, got it. 1.8 it is then. Waiting to hear back from Lilliput on this issue.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @au8ust Thanks

    @vicharris According to users:

    "It's in the main menu, third menu item over (the icon looks like tools). Scroll down to bottom of the page and it shows the Firmware number."

    Firmware version info was removed from the menu at firmware version 1.8. That's why I assume mine is 1.8.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @au8ust How did you check to see what firmware you have?

  • au8ustau8ust

    @TGDude I don't see any improvement on turning on or off for the exposure and histogram functions. Mine is 1.7.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @vicharris No I haven't tried contacting the support team yet. I wanted to check with you guys first.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @TGDude

    Do you have any contacts for Lilliput? I'd love to hear what they say about this situation going on. I didn't know Peaking didn't work either when the other two are on. This seems like a bad problem IMO.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @vicharris yeah it's weird, man. Even while watching playback, I have to turn on Histogram/Exposure functions in order to watch the playback at a high quality.

    Surprisingly, the Peaking function has been very accurate and tight in my indoor testing. I like using it, but I can't use it at the same time as Histogram/Exposure, so the monitor's image quality drops. I'm using the Leica DG 25mm 1.4 lens, which is very sharp, so maybe that helps with peaking accuracy.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @TGDude

    Mine looks SOOOOO much better when I turn on those functions. I just bought mine last week so I would hope it's 1.8! It also seems to warm up as well in terms of color temp.

    Also when you have the Histogram or Exposure turned on, you can't adjust the color temp at all.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @au8ust can you try turning on the monitor's Exposure or Histogram function and tell us if the display looks even better or stays the same? Thanks

    I think I have firmware version 1.8 (since my monitor's menu doesn't list the version number, firmware versions were listen in the menu up to ver 1.7, then no longer listed at 1.8).

  • au8ustau8ust

    @TGDude on my GH2 I didn't turn on histogram or exposure function. It just works.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @au8ust said that the resolution is incredible on his GH2. I'm guessing he was using the Exposure or Histogram functions. I hope there is a way to get it to stay at that quality by default or at least while using the Peaking function

  • vicharrisvicharris

    @TGDude Yep, same problems I see too. Not sure what's going on here.

  • TGDudeTGDude

    @au8ust and @jamesjjs -- Hey, just got the Lilliput 5D-ii-o/p for my GH2.

    I'm noticing that the image quality on the monitor is much better while using the Exposure or Histogram functions. If I'm not using one of those functions, the monitor's image quality looks much less detailed.

    Are you guys having this problem?

    My workaround is to just leave either Exposure or Histogram on, but I think those functions on the monitor are a little too sensitive compared to the GH2's built in exposure/histogram. Plus, if I want to use the Peaking function, I lose the Exposure/Histogram functions and the image quality goes back down again.

  • redpawredpaw

    I too must say that got the image look very very similar to the gh2 lcd. not complaining about the quality of the screen and colors at all. still... keep in mind its a 665 version. (no peaking in this one, got false colors though) i actually got my problem sorted... but it's coming back when i try to plug a second monitor (that gh2 doesnt 'support') through the hdmi out - have to go through 'reset the settings' . if its a monitor that's working straight with gh2 then there's no problem. overall, i'm now very happy with mine, and definitely would get another one if needed.

  • robbinrobbin

    got mine adjusted to my liking. I dont use false colour o peaking. Got it to better see whats in the frame and for focus magnification for critical focusing. Have you tried dialing in colour under user setting? I conneced mine to my af100 and used colour bars to calibrate and then fine tuning it.

  • vicharrisvicharris

    I just bought the 5dii and I'm going back and forth as to keep it or sell my Marshall 7". @redpaw, yep, I'm having those problems. It seems to trim off a little bit and the 19:9 and full screen are the same. Of course the Marshall doesn't do that. Also, I can't get the color, saturation and pretty much any image controls close to what the GH2 screen looks like or the Marshall. It took me about 10 min to get the Marshall close enough for government work and my clients to look at the screen and not say,"What the hell is that"

    I really want to love this little guy and sell my Marshall since it's as heavy as a boat anchor but I'm not so sure. It's much better than my first monitor which was the 668 or 669, I really can't remember but it just looks like crap to me.

    Anyone else having problems adjusting the picture to get it close or are you just saying screw it? Also, I've noticed the peaking and false coloring are way different than the $1200 Marshall. Not sure I trust it that much.

  • redpawredpaw

    Does anyone who got that monitor have any problems with the field of view - i.e. the monitor not showing the whole image you can see on camera's lcd? i got 665 model (as i needed bnc inputs to use with ex1/3) but it also has hdmi in/out. now, while composite and component inputs work fine (have to switch underscan on though to see full frame) the hdmi shows like 80% of the image (in wrong aspect ratio too). switching underscan on/off make very little difference. while switching between H / V delays you can see the bits of the image that are missing at the bottom / at the sides, but there's no way to have it all shown at the same time. here's some photos with different setting (the feed comes from ps3->lilliput, and then from lilliput's hdmi out->23" samsung). it's basically the same with gh2, but it's easier to see that way.

    switching between 16:9 and full screen makes no difference at all.

    also, while changing video output settings on ps3 shows on lilliput (basically the resolution you set on ps3 shows on lilliput), changes make in gh2 (hdmi out - 1080i/720p/576p, or even 16:9 / 4:3) make completelly no difference - it always shows as 1080i50

  • au8ustau8ust

    It works with 1080i from what I've seen.

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