I hope BM RAW is free, cause that means I'm more likely to buy more cameras and more companies are likely to support it.

This is an excellent opportunity to save on disk space, recording media, etc and update color science / colorspaces with the changing times.

BMD is on a really good track here...

What he does with a camera I do with a trumpet!

Brawley has forgotten more than the rest of us will ever know. forgive the cliché.

I always think @johnbrawley gives it to you straight, and from a practical, hands-on film making perspective. This is a like a public service and he should get an award.
As for the noise from some other people, sometimes you have to tune out the noise. It's the Internet--there's a glorious mural on every dumpster fire, with poetry and fiction burning along with the garbage.

@majoraxis @Ausboy

For years also admire things John did.

May be problems in online media is not so easy to see for ordinary reader, but they are very pronounced and will become really big with open conflicts soon.

@johnbrawley

Thank you for your contributions! I really appreciate you giving your time and prospective to this forum!

@Vitaliy_Kiselev - I'm not understanding what Black Magic could have done better in the way they released the footage and files for download. This seems very transparent to me..

Right. But mostly all he did was attack me. And for what ?

I’m really happy to have the debate. Like we are.

What he did was write a blog post that attacked me and accused me of lying and trying to sell Blackmagic cameras.

Forgive me but I don’t feel the love...or even the argument you say he’s really trying to make.

JB

But has Blackmagic actually done that ?

So far I’m the only one they’ve used more than once.

JB

Here's what I could see as the real conflict here. Videos from third parties pre-release. The footage John and others shot for BMD is really no different from paying an ad agency to film them an ad as far as the output of it goes. It even has the BMD logo shown at the end, it's released officially by BMD. It IS advertising. They obviously got people they knew would do a good job in for it. Likewise, Canon for their EOS R release could produce some sample clips working with videographers and officially release them as samples and say this is our marketing for the camera, when it releases buy it.

The issue might be when say, they give the cameras out in Hawaii and now there are 15 people out there in the world, who are releasing videos but NOT as official Canon marketing but have exclusive access to the camera that is as yet not on the market. All the videos and content they generate is not fair in a competitive sense to other publications that did not get access to the camera. In addition there's always going to be some question of bias inherent since they got privileged access that others did not. That does not mean that everyone who went to the event and got a camera IS biased and is "shilling" but it does open it to the possibility.

In the case of the Canon EOS R, they gave the cameras to attendees to use for 6 weeks and then they have to return the camera. At least in the US if a company actually sends you goods to keep it is considered taxable income. You report it on your tax forms and they take a cut of the value. That's why most companies don't just send expensive products to reviewers to keep but send them for a while and then take them back. There's a lot of value in that exclusive early access though that realistically probably has a cash value.

This makes no sense.

There are restrictions on alcohol and tobacco advertising because they are proven to kill people.

I’m truly failing to understand what the alternative is being proposed here.

No one is allowed to promote their product until it’s shipping ?

JB