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  • We need GH2 Mark II. We want Panasonic sensor.

  • do we already know how long the high speed jpg burst mode can be used for?

    there is unlimited time jpg shooting with mechanical shutter, but i dont know about electronic shutter (30fps?) mode.

    Still an option for higher resolution video! :)

  • I think - I keep my GH2 - the new sensor does not convince me - I want to lose not miss the look of the GH2 - a softer image "GH3" out of cam I can not accept - the GH2 is still the No. 1 . . . ;)

  • "Have you watched the Genesis download..."

    Obviously everything is subjective but aside from hamfisted "acting", pathetic "story" (why didn't the dude just call her back???!!) and mediocre directing, I didn't see anything in "Genesis" or any other clips that have surfaced that a hacked GH2 doesn't do better. I agree with @bwhitz completely, so far the "look" of the GH3 (which is all I give a rat's a** about) doesn't warrant the "upgrade". Now a hacked GH3, that's something different but that's what - 6-10 months away, if ever?

  • Did anyone find out if ETC mode will work with HDMI out? Always one of my biggest frustrations when shooting.

    I don't know about this.

  • @Bwhitz "It's still rendering "plastic" detail like the 7D. Not good." Have you watched the Genesis download? watch it on a nice big screen an see how plastic that looks, the word FILM comes to mind not plastic. No aliasing/moire either in Genesis an its some varied environments, so lets hope its related to that 12-35mm lens or can b improved in final FW version.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Did anyone find out if ETC mode will work with HDMI out? Always one of my biggest frustrations when shooting.

  • Blackmagic does not resolve an actual 1080 image. Doesn't even cleanly resolve 1000 lines.

    Still looks good, but not 1080.

    As a matter of fact I've (suprisingly) seen quite a bit of aliasing in the BMC video also. I've come to realize that with the GH-3/BMC/AF100/FS100/F3/EX-1 cameras etc. we will still see flaws in the image below a certain price range. I don't expect Alexa performance in any of these cameras. Then again...so many people have found ways to work around these issues and produce exceptionally well made work of arts. So, I'm not sweating any of this any more. I just want the best bang for my buck. :-)

  • @Mimirsan

    This is just camera with very good video made for a guy who do not want to carry big lenses, like very fast AF that also work in video, and like lenses that had been made with video in mind. Wor guys who like 1080p50/1080p60. With Wi-Fi feature that can be developed very far. And few firmware updates ahead.

  • After much reading and viewing still samples and videos.

    I thought the major benefit to most VDSLR videographers was that with the GH we had next to no moire...it was always the arguement in favour for GH cameras when compared to other DSLR's for video?

    Keeping in mind now that the GH3 looks to having moire and alaising in video.

    What will the GH3 have over the countless (and some cheaper) larger sensor DSLR's with video?

    I can see they want to challenge the other manufacturers in the Pro market (call me cynical) but I dont think Panasonic are going to do well.

    If I was a Pro photographer I would rather go for a Canon or Nikon or Pentax. Heck were even getting close to full frame pricing here.

    It looks like more UK retailers here are pricing the body only option at £1500. For Joe camera buyer thats out of their pricerange.

    If I was a m43rds guy going for video and stills for that price I can buy a GH2 for video AND a em5 for stills.

    I can buy a Nex 5n body that shoots 50p with some moire and alaising and shoots great photos for £250 quid.

    I can get a GH2 body for £450 new...the thousand pounds extra for the GH3?

    There just doesnt seem to be enough to justify it. So I wont be buying one..not until its price is more sane.

    Dont jump on me Im just showing a view as a regular camera hobbyist. ;-D

  • @bwhitz

    Blackmagic does not resolve an actual 1080 image. Doesn't even cleanly resolve 1000 lines.

    Still looks good, but not 1080.

  • I think until we get a direct comparison it's really hard to make such a claim. I just don't see footage as bad as 7D IMO, but I have no direct comparison.

    Ok, it's not "as bad". It's a bit sharper, I'd say between a 7D and GH2... but the thing is the detail. It's still rendering "plastic" detail like the 7D. Not good. I just thought, though... that it COULD be the NR processing that is crunching out the detail. Did Panasonic maybe crank it up for the demos so people wouldn't complain about noise? Maybe the picture profiles weren't tweak-able yet? Who knows... this is the only thing I can think of for the plastic-look so far that seems like it would be fixable. So yea, to be fair... we'll have to wait until someone can go through all the NR settings to sort it out. Because on second look, it looks like the reps may have just cranked up the NR and Sharpening in camera.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    Yep, just this guys (and this is just 43rumors other domain) copy-pasted this from Voldemort post.

    Ha ha...it took me a little to figure out what the heck you were referring to. But, Voldemort......that's just too funny.

  • @AKED Ok, if this feature is for the 29-Minute-Thing, then i never need a patch on GH3 (sorry Vitaly, your work was really good and has influenced the GH3).

  • Regarding the Raws, send me a PN. You can download it from Dropbox then.

  • @DealjagdLtd That is because of the 29:59 limit. The GH2 could record longer than 4GB. So that would be no feature.

    But we know when it is out.

  • I'm glad to be out of Gh3 fever. Just don't sell Gh2 yet ;)

  • @AKED Yeas i know Dieter. Panasonic-Page says "When recording the video in MOV, AVCHD Progressive and AVCHD, the DMC-GH3 automatically generates multiple seamless files for continuous recording." But is this for the 4GB-File-Limit or is it also for the 29:59 Limit? (Is it allowed to write German here?)

  • @DealjagdLtd As far as I understood the 29:59 feature is especially for the EU version.

  • Only lcd is in GH3 better than GH2? Ha ha ha. I look forward to the Timelapse-Feature (for Weather-Synopsis). Pictures at ISO1600 are very Clean. In Video-Mode there should be much cleaner, 2-3 stops. This means, a Video with ISO6400 can be so clean like a Picture in ISO1600, this is really great! We get 1080p with 50p and 25 p and higher Bitrate! So we don't need a patch on GH3! (Hope the conuniues recording-feature is also enabled by the 29:59 Time-Limit in Europea).

  • I dont think that the footage of Voldemort is better than a GH2 with a patch. And wich is the real innovation in GH3 in comparssion of GH2, it seem that its only the better lcd.

  • I do not know what you mean with a locked down video clip.

    But here are a few JEPG Samples between 125 and 1600 ISO

    Where can I upload the respective RAW files? Here it is not possibe 8 MB limit and they are 16 MB

    P1000184.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 6M
    P1000185.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 5M
    P1000189.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 5M
    P1000191.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 5M
    P1000194.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 4M
    P1000199.JPG
    4608 x 3072 - 6M
  • I'm now convinced that the the odd colorless moire that's cropped up in some high contrast patterns is actually a bug in the chromatic aberration auto correction software. It would explain why there are no funky colors going on and things like brick wall patterns in the Genesis vid seem unaffected.

  • I'd like to see a locked down video clip + a JPG and RAW still. to compare DR and compression artifacts.

  • for all I have seen the last days in different forums and videofiles concerning GH3 ( video part) the steps forward for me are GH1... GH2... BMCC, os far I'm not amused about the GH3

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