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  • @Vitaliy I agree its not the end of the hack, on the contrary the start of something new.

    @apefos It's just the beginning. Think how much the GH2 Has developed because of all the great peooke such as Vitaliy, Driftwood, CBrandin, Lpowell and so on as well as all the testers and contributors. Because of them they took a consumer camera and turned it into the beast that the GH2 is. And you say GH3 72mbit I Frame haha. Well that only half the bitrate of he latest 150mb GH2 settings such as Canis Majoris. Imagine the scope that we could have with the GH3. With a new hack it could crush the competition.

    Yesterday compared the 5dmk3 to the gh2 shot for shot. I laughed at the 5d. Laughed more at the price my friend paid for it.

    So much of the image is in the glass. But so much of post is in the codec and the frames.

    I have high expectations of the Gh3 and will suppor vitaliy and others anyway I can to develop a gh3 hack.

  • Still missing some features, at least for stills, like highlight peaking in live view and, more important, customizable minimum shutter speed option for A priority shooting mode (with/without auto ISO).

  • @apefos

    You had been away for too long? :-)

    No it is not "end of the hack" :-)

    You can check top message in topic for features and probabilities.

  • GH3 FT5 rumor: 72mbps all i, will it be the end of the hack?

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev Theoretically: Could you port this feature to the GH2? Just like you did with the GH1 to the GF1? What are the odds of Panny updating their old cameras with peaking via firmware?

  • Looking at all other things it is natural thing to expect.

  • YEEESSSS!!!!

  • Good news! Focus peaking in GH3! ... That is actually a very helpful feature to have in camera..

    / FT5 rumor, source: 43rumors.com

  • @RRRR I guess adding more pixels is easier and cheaper than making each pixels bigger. A bigger pixel pitch might take longer to refresh a sensor. Anyways this would be another topic for another day ;)

  • @stonebat it makes sense though, doesn´t it? Just because something is physically larger should not mean it is better, if it has the same properties as something smaller. Just smaller / bigger, ideally.

    I recall a few years back when I got the lx3 people were talking about how the m43 sensor would not be possible to improve over it´s then current state. A few years later and m43 sensors perform light-years ahead of what was possible back then. Funnily, some people are now saying the same things (also about aps-c and other sensor formats). What it comes down to is how everything is handled... The megapixel race screwed a lot of things up.

    And yes, I´m all for a super-sized pixel pitch from Panny!

    @danyyyel - I´d say bigger, different, rather than superior.

  • @RRRR It seems DR performance is more related to pixel pitch size than overall sensor size. I do want Panasonic to supersize pixel pitch!!!

  • For me that I use the GH2 underwater, any sort of remote control is welcome. Maybe one day I will break free to buy a new housing for every new camera. Current camera underwater housings are tailored perfectly to the camera shape so it means that my beloved Nauticam GH2 housing will be nearly trash with the new GH3. For amateur camcorders this is not always true because many housings have the Lanc or infrared controls. So some housing fits several camcorders models.

    One Italian company makes a universal underwater housing for Canon and Nikon camera using their ability to be fully controlled via USB. They built a small electronic circuit with a different firmware for each model. So when a new Canon or Nikon drsl come out they immediately write a new firmware and you are set:

    http://www.easydive.it/public/uploads/prodotti/leoII_pro_4.jpg

    Thanks to the USB Control Panel all major controls are remote, avoiding the need to build custom mechanical buttons. You can use the same housing if you buy a new camera.

    http://www.easydive.it/public/uploads/prodotti/leoII_pro_1.jpg

    Unfortunately Panny never had this ability while Canon or Nikon users can control their camera even through Lightroom.

    Maybe with these new GH3 remote control capabilities someone will be able to build an universal housing...

  • I am not talking about video, because I am not that big fan of the bloom look, which mean super shallow DOF. It is more of an effect than true cinematography. But in photography it is different and even if DR and low light depends more on the technology use than pure sensor size, at equivalent technology they will be superior.

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    It is simply down to the overall assumption that short focal field = better + the assumption that full frame has better DR and low light capabilities. (without any context).

  • Another thing is that a revolutionary camera price point could be on its way with the full frame D600 in the $ 1500 range.

    Biggest thing I do not understand is this sacramental, long running in circles and wanting full frame. Cheap full frame, any full frame (look at Pentax forums, it loooks like they get some infection).

  • I´d expect it to be priced in the same range as the OM-D (body only).

  • I don't think that the gh3 will be able to price much higher than $ 900/1000 body because it will be more or less equaling (quality wise) camera like the Apsc Nikon D7000 if everything is good. The only reason that Panasonic would put it higher is that they really want to target the indie filmmakers market with the gh3 video capabilities. But I think it is a vocal but small community and I think they would prefer to touch a much bigger user base by pricing it competitively against competing camera like the D7000. Another thing is that a revolutionary camera price point could be on its way with the full frame D600 in the $ 1500 range.

  • When "pros" go looking for gear, they tend to buy expensive. When "amateurs" buy gear, they tend to buy cheap, regardless of what kind of price/performance you actually get. Companies who want to compete must perform and play the part as well. That means if they want to snag some of Canon's market share, they have to increase price accordingly so that "pros" will subconsciously think that they are getting value for the price. It's a well known phenomenon as strange as it is.

  • I could see a new $1800 to $2000 (US) price tag for the GH3. It will have a better lens and obviously tons of new features. It's not that much of a bump up from the GH2's kit price of $1500 when it came out.

  • @oscillian

    In December I paid US $699 for the GH2 with 14-42mm kit lens.

  • I expect a price bump -- but US $2100 for a kit (about $1700 for a body) is a bit excessive, and from the perspective of most pros -- laughable for a micro-four-thirds camera.

    If these guys at his forum hack it and make it a powerful video camera -- I'll buy the damn thing at that price. But until then -- I have zero interest in a circa $1700 micro-four-thirds video enabled stills camera.

  • They still charge 1900$ for the GH2+14-140 here in Sweden...

  • @MarkV he was talking about the kit, so likely GH3 + new 14-140 = 2100 USD or whatever...

  • @inviev Uh... 2100 USD for a GH3 and kit-lens?! Or only GH3? Looks like we will see the price bump after all..

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