@Meierhans

My reply was actually more centered on recording compressed raw on non-red cameras, much less about system change. While I enjoy discussing these kind of topics in general, and indeed also see the urgent need for change in many respects, I believe PV does not benefit from the way the discussion went in the last month

Maybe I´m getting old, but somehow I liked those days, when more Russian hackers did spend their time hacking into actual (camera) hardware, instead of seeding agitprop, bashing naive hardware repair guy´s for their inability to detect certain patterns and preaching to the converted (and unconvertables).

You just need to remove dark cloud glasses and understand that to have Russian hackers to do real thing we need system change. Not because I want it or anyone else here, but because this things are all of the same. For example, having proper access I could do around 50-100x more features and changes to GH cameras, yes, not 2-3x but 100x.

During last 10 years I had around 200-300 talks (many very long and multiple) with lot of managers including very top and CEOs. And none of this people really care about users, about modular stuff, about open software, about you being able to change and improve product or about even being able to simple repair product. Yet they care about nice clothing, their house, their sons getting superb education, their savings, marketing and PR push, considering main job - about feeding presstitutes and reviewers and controlling them, about copy some feature from other product and so on. To be short - this guys are enemies of the people and no other way you can remove them except communist revolution. I have unique experience (contrary to you) in my life as I saw this guys taking their seats, becoming who they are here in Mordor, destroying all amazing opportunities that socialism provided (even in very limited form as it was). It is not that they are bad guys, it is that capitalism make them such assholes.

To conclude - if you think that politics, economics and communism are some foreign stuff for product modularity and hacking - you are making biggest mistake of your life.

@Meierhans

Imagine a cam which allows to add different types of compression, like some kind of plugin.It would not even have to be open source, just have some interface, where the uncompressed raw data is available. Yet the company would not be liable for third party plugins

Another PV member talks about communist revolution now:-)

The Sigma FP is the best value for money camera, I record CINEMA DNG RAW directly to a Samsung T7 or T5 SSD and it works like a charm. No need for an external ATOMOS recorder. At a price of just Rs.96,000 ($1300), I don't think anything even comes close to this full frame beast.

No, the Sigma fp's RAW is genuine. Because it's uncompressed, it's not affected by RED's patent.

@CFreak

BM does not have any raw (it is just such marketing term!), can think of this like renamed Prores :-).

@flash

You can check this topic and videos in it

https://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/22255/red-surpassed-beats-by-dr-dre-margins-record-selling-you-just-consumer-ssd-/p1

I always wanted to know why there is no raw recorded internally in modern camera like A7SIII, Fx6, Panasonic, Fuji, Nikon. Have you an idea ?

It’s crazy because you can have raw in atomos. I don’t want an atomos just to record raw.

Fucking Red patent

@storyboardcreativity

So, this guys really scared.

Are you sure about HEVC?