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  • great news, can anyone confirm that now all motion with IBIS works great?

  • ... Confucius say:
    "Hard Off Man who injects Firm's Wares into his body, probably not very Firm Where Hard On should be." ...

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    I think what Confucius was saying here is.... Don't get too excited and let someone else be the guinea pig first.

  • According to CameraJabber the g80 firmware update will be issued at on the company’s global website (www.panasonic.com) at 6am GMT tomorrow.

    http://www.camerajabber.com/firmware-upgrade-panasonic-g80g85-imminent/

  • @VortekShow Don't know about the Mitakon but i have a generic chinese speed booster FD-m43 and it works. @Vitaliy_Kiselev you're right, the stabilization problem happens with all lenses, dual is2 or not.

  • @cas1

    Your example is fullhd AF. 4k is different, I think.

    From Fredrik Gløckners Youtube channel:

    "As for autofocus, it is disappointing to see that the Lumix G85 is way worse than the Lumix GH4, even if the GH4 isn't very good at 4k autofocus to begin with. I would speculate that this comes down to processing power. Contrast Detection Autofocus (CDAF) and Depth From Defocus (DFD), the technologies used by Panasonic for focusing, require a lot of processing power. Supposedly, the Lumix GH4 has a quad core CPU image processor to be able to handle the video stream. Perhaps the G85 is not specified as with the same processing power, and cannot focus as fast.With 1080p footage, though, I don't see much difference. The Lumix G85 focuses snappy enough during video recording when using Full HD 1080p resolution, in my experience."

  • Vesku, I've seen in the DP-review that the G85 has variable focus sensitivity. Default it is slow to respond, at high it's very fast.

  • G85 seems to have much slower AF in 4k mode than the GH4. It is surprising because it is over 2 years newer tech.

    G85 has 2 improvements in ergonomics over GH4.

    1. It has a play button in right side. No need to take left hand out of the lens when reviewing images.

    2. It has no useless EV-button like GH4.

    Unfortunately GH5 has those inconveniences. I hope they make more custom FN options for those features/buttons.

  • Additionally, based on our testing, the issue doesn't seem to affect non Dual I.S. 2-compatible lenses. While you wait for the fix, using a non-Dual I.S. 2 lens is one possible workaround, as is turning image stabilization off (although that is not ideal when working at longer focal lengths).

    I think our members tests do not match this description and issue is with sensor stabilization, no matter the lens

  • So, anyone knows if the Mitakon Lens Turbo fits the G80's body because of some talk that the speedbooster might be incompatible? (For whatever reason!?) Source: http://www.camerajabber.com/panasonic-pro-users-thoughts-lumix-g80/

  • Official announcement on USA facebook page saying firmware update to be released this week!

    https://www.facebook.com/Lumix/?fref=ts

  • A bit worried about what Luke Massey says about the Metabones Speedbooster not fitting in the G80/85 body. Does anybody tried a Speedbooster yet?? Is it the XL? The Ultra, or just the basic one?? http://www.camerajabber.com/panasonic-pro-users-thoughts-lumix-g80/

  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev, so with that, it will be even more embarrassing and fail if the GH5 gets released without the HEVC encoder then? What codec do you think they will implement their 422 10bit with?

  • @natureflixs

    G85 is not bad, but it is embarrassing for Panasonic to release such cameras almost 2 years after NX1 and NX500. G85 must have had 422 10bit HEVC encoder.

  • Kind of smart for Panasonic to position the G85 before the GH5 comes out. The G85 will be the fall back camera for those that can't afford or need the advanced feature set of the GH5. Its interesting that the G85 and GH4 are now only $200 apart. I would suspect that the G85 is the GH4 replacement.

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    Lumix G85 is a very powerful video capture device as well. Featuring a dedicated video recording button that works in any recording mode and a full manual video shooting mode; this camera is always ready to provide the amount of control that you are looking for. Offering more control in manual mode than most mirrorless cameras, along with 4K and Full HD at 60fps is what really makes this a fantastic hybrid camera. The 5-axis image stabilization also goes a long way to steady your handheld recordings, even while you are on the move. Our video samples in both 4K and Full HD look excellent, despite the overpowering wind noise. The camera did a very good job with the continuous AF, almost always being able to keep up with quick motion and zoom movements. As with all internal microphones, the G85's is no different, recording all of the sound that is closest to the camera. Adding an external microphone, which the camera is ready for thanks to a mic input jack, is a great way to add audio that matches the excellent quality of the video.

    http://www.steves-digicams.com/camera-reviews/panasonic/lumix-dmc-g85/panasonic-lumix-dmc-g85-review.html

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  • @DrDave - matched 12AX7's in the preamps.

  • @4CardsMan Probably the first time the 1260 was equated to the C300. You would need to add Bugle Boy tubes to the input stage of the C300 to get that analog sound.

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  • @ Vitaliy_Kiselev - We once had a Fair Price Act, where no retailer could sell below the manufacturer's lowest list price. For example, in 1962, I bought an Ampex 1260 audio recorder, the top prosumer product, for $550 (a very high price at the time), with no discount anywhere. The equivalent product in our world might be the Canon C300. Some of the cheaper recorders were decent, but not in the same class as the Ampex. The Ampex, though, had this felt washer which pressed the tape against a metal post, to provide supply tension. The washer would clog with oxide, and would periodically have to be turned (you loosened a screw) to a fresh surface. Eventually, you had to replace it. Neither Ampex nor the dealers told you about this. Suddenly, you started to hear this hideous wow and flutter. If you knew the drill it was no big deal, because the washers were cheap (when I complained in a letter, Ampex sent me several for free.) So, even in a regulated environment, a leading reputable company could give you a surprise. If we had the Fair Price Act back, the G8 series would cost more, a lot more, and Sony would not be releasing a new paid hardware upgrade every 90 days. Products would compete on service and quality, not price.

    But even in our free-for-all world, if you spring for the Olympus OMD EM1 Mark II, with its flawless stabilization, you won't have this problem, and Olympus will certainly stand behind the product, unlike Sony and some others. We all want not to pay too much. In an unregulated world, we have to work hard to determine when we should pay more.

  • Face Detect in Video

  • “Less than a week ago, Panasonic became aware of some reports that the G85's image stabilization wasn't delivering the same level of smooth performance that the GX85 is while slow panning in video mode. Panasonic is working to solve the issue with a firmware update as soon as we can. Panasonic appreciates all the valuable feedback and always focuses on meeting or exceeding our customers' expectations.”

    We're told the update should be available as soon as next week, which is very encouraging.

    This is that I love capitalism for. It is not users and other people who actually brought this to Panasonic attention who had been contacted and thanked and told about firmware, it is retailer money sponsored site who completely missed it and later in silence added part about it after being told many times.

  • Would the IBIS on the G85 help with walking z-axis if you were using a handheld gimbal like the Beholder DS1/EC1?

  • For me, Dual IBIS 2 is a big improvement over non ibis cameras i've got. I made a "walking test" today and my results were impresive. All my Parkinsons movements from each step are gone.