Olympus E-M1 Mk II topic

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Most forums now remind some form of masochists meeting where people going through Kubler-Ross Grief Cycle. Almost all passed denial stage. Most passed anger stage for now, but still some loud part remains. Part is on bargaining stage, including some individual reviewers. Most of people in depression stage left temporary. And lot of guys want to find good reasons why price set by right foot of drunken Olympus top manager is fully logically founded. This is acceptance stage.

And reviewers remind me of active sadists who can do anything for money.

Azo

$1999.00 for a M4/3 camera. No thank you.... When the GH4 first came out it was sort of a game changer in terms of features and price point for a 4K camera. 4K was basically the only reason why I purchased the GH4.

Olympus as far as I can tell was a better stills camera but was just ok for video. That was 2 years ago. Fast forward till today and there are many many more options for stills and video.

If I were intrested in a mirrorless camera today and was looking to spend about 2k on body alone I would personally get either the Fuji XT2 or the Sony A6500 over the Olympus or GH5. Especially at the $2000.00 price point.

Eno

@DrDave. GX 85 has the same quality as GH4 in RAW and I clearly see around 2/3 to almost a stop difference between them and higher resolved detail in the 20,4 Mpix sensor.

DrDave

@Eno I don't see that it is a real breakthrough, the still images look like the GX85. A small improvement, and in some cases there is absolutely no question that the Mark I resolves the same amount of detail.

liork

I did that, and it looks very similar to PEN-F file.

Eno

@liork, it's cleaner but it's hard to tell by how much (probably 1/3 of a stop or something).

liork

But how does it compare to the PEN-F?

Eno

I've compared the new Em1 mk2 to D7200 and GH4 (which uses the same sensor as the original EM1). Samples are taken from Imaging resource, converted in RawTherapee and resized to mach the Gh4's resolution.

From my observation the Em1 mk2 is on par with D7200 and almost one stop better than Gh4.

This concludes the new Sony 20,4 Mp sensor is a real breakthrough in image quality over the previous generation! Olympus kept their word and the new sensor is around one stop better than their previous one, comparable with top of the line APS-C's.

liork

Video look good, no RS and the IBIS is great. If Panasonic will not launch GH5 soon, they will have a problem.

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

https://www.engadget.com/2016/11/05/olympus-om-d-e-m1-mark-ii-sample-images/#/

Btw, one of our sources that that Mk II launch PR, marketing and such is largest cost in Olympus history, all of this is included in price.

DrDave

In a shrinking market, there are always people who will buy the most expensive item on the menu.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

After the owl heard about the one full stop it coughed up a partially digested mouse.

Well, to got this mouse this owl can tell you even about 3 stops. Like this idiotic Olympus claims about stabilization improvements.

Now, just imagine situation if all review sites will be fully and absolutely honest and start reporting 2-5% improvements (and sometimes degradation) in all mean things, and it is only each 2 years.
Will it help the walking dead (I mean camera market)?

DrDave

After the owl heard about the one full stop it coughed up a partially digested mouse.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

He is talking about Jpeg.

If we start counting all improvements in JPEG mentioned in reviews in last 5-6 years I am sure that manufacturers of MF and FF cameras must go and hang themselves.

liork

He is talking about Jpeg. RAW files have similar quality to PEN-F. Here some nice 4K shots:

Vitaliy_Kiselev

With the new E-M1 MKII, the noise levels have been improved by a stop. It will offer better high ISO than the MKI and give the best low light and high ISO of any Micro 4/3 out there.

Well, well.

http://www.stevehuffphoto.com/2016/11/01/the-olympus-e-m1-mkii-review-part-1-iceland/

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Samples

Head of Olympus Imaging Division during thought of setting Mk II price

https://www.ephotozine.com/article/olympus-om-d-e-m1-mark-ii-hands-on-samples-29936

4CardsMan

I talked to the Olympus rep at a local store yesterday. One interesting thing he mentioned - Olympus will update the firmware for a Panasonic lens attached to the camera.

The camera reps know next to nothing about video. When I brought up moire, he looked a little blank. One of the store people was wearing a top with lots of stripes going different directions, so we shot a short clip to test it with excellent results. No moire.

liork

Here is 4K sample, shot with f11 so could be sharper:

DrDave

@Scot I agree--very close for the reasons you say.

Scot

@DrDave You can also compare to G85 without the white balance issue. That being said comparing the Olympus to the G85 it's hard to see a huge difference. On close inspection there are areas I prefer the Olympus and others I prefer the Panasonic so like you I see no big IQ difference in stills.

Scot

I think it is hard to evaluate everything is moving and stabilization can't make a moving world static so image blur is going to be there. Would have been nice to see some footage after they stopped.

jjj_ri_usa

Probably just the Vimeo compression but very soft with poor resolution. Looks like bad 720p? Autofocus was also bad as well. But, yup RS looks great.

liork

WOW, no rolling shutter at all:

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