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Panasonic G7 topic, 4K castrate monster or GH4 for poor
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  • @jagnje What do you mean by that? Focus throw is a function of the lens. I don't think any cameras let you change the focus throw of there autofocus lenses when manual focusing but technically I would think it is possible so maybe someone does.

  • @ironfilm I liked the comparison and his approach which if anything would give an advantage to the Sony stopped down vs wide open on the lenses. I watched and picked the images I liked best not the mindset of which camera is which. To me it was amazingly close call on many of the images but I chose the G7 over the A7s on all but one number 3 which was one of the to close to call images to me.

  • Can you change the manual focus throw on this camera?

  • Note sure if this one has been posted yet, but it is pretty good:

    Albert Fast did this with a Panasonic G7 ( Olympus 25/1.8 & Mitakon 25/0.95):

  • I bought this one for the G7
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/111060138054
    I have several of these and they are all pretty much the same, the official Panasonic one has a slightly different connector. If you want it sooner spend a few dollars more for one on Amazon or one with faster shipping.
    The connectors are cheap you can buy one that hooks into the included cable:
    http://www.ebay.com/itm/371018798506
    Or you can get or make a cable that has 4.0mm male on both ends to go from the dummy battery to the power pack.

  • @ Dr Dave. Can you link to suitable "dummy battery" or post a photo of the one you are using. Very useful tip as usual from you. Thanks

  • Monster batteries: Running the G7 and GX 85 forever on batteries for $40 QD 185-TY Portable Charger 18650 Li-on Battery Power Bank
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01B98J67O
    SunLabz® 18650 3.7V Rechargeable (4-Pack) Flat Top Battery Cells 3400mAh
    or whatever brand...the cheap ones are fake, FYI. Make sure they are flat top.
    https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01CNVGE4O

    Dummy battery
    Whatever cable you need, I used 4.0x1.7mm on both ends.
    Set the voltage to 8.5 or 9. 8.5 runs pretty cool.
    And run you cam for a really long time.

  • @smoke23 I think G6 never have Hdmi out while recording.

  • @smoke23 They could but I wouldn't hold my breath. If I was you I would sell and get a G85 unless IBIS is useless to you. I sold my G7 and got a GX85 and even with the sound issues (no input) and no cineD I love it. Did an entire day shoot at the beach handheld and with a monopod it was great. There were some moments of movement but due to the IBIS shake was controlled and only moderate software stabilization was required to make those moments perfect. I will be getting a G85 without a doubt and than get what I loved about the G7 and what I love in the GX85.

  • I'm torn on selling one my Personal-View NTSC G7's to buy a G85. One of my biggest complaint is the HDMI out when recording. The G6 & GX85 all have HDMI out while recording, I don't see why the G7 wouldn't.

    Could Panasonic ever release a firmware upgrade to enable this?

  • If all the effects are not exactly the same, the video will "skip" over the join; of course, if you join the files into one long file there is no problem.

  • The downside, if you don[t join the files, is that it can be a hassle to add effects.

    What kind of hassle?

  • Now that the G80 or G85 is almost upon us, it's worth asking whether it is better to get the newer model, with all the new goodness, or the G7, possibly a ta good price.
    I haven't tested the G80 yet, but I have a few thoughts.
    File spanning: feature or annoyance?
    One of the annoying things about the G7 and many earlier models is that they write a succession of 4gb files. No one likes this, and on the GX85 (not the G85...) this is "fixed": you get one big file instead of lots of little files.
    But is this a good thing? First of all, using a file joiner you can make one big file in two or three minutes, plus you can dump all those files on the timeline. The downside, if you don[t join the files, is that it can be a hassle to add effects.
    But what happens if the camera shuts down while recording, or you get a corrupted disk, or file? The fat is, it's a lot safer to have lots of little files. If you pull the plug an that big file, you get zippo. The cosmic goose egg.
    The other thing to mention here is that the G7 is lighter. It will be interesting to compare battery run times and the crop factor.
    The G80 looks like a great cam...IQ will certainly be a big factor.

  • @domenl Thanks, I was getting some pretty weird results using ETTR and the histogram.

  • @DrDave Can confirm, when constant preview is turned off, the histogram just displays the output of the screen. It only turns yellow to show that your exposure is off. I do not consider it a problem, as always have constant preview on.

  • On my G7s, the histogram is off unless preview is enabled. Anyone else have that problem? It seems to be taking a histogram of the screen, not the actual frame. Or is this normal....seems really weird.

  • @Vesku I can confirm it does work during video recording. If you get AF/AE to AF-On, you can press it during recording and till Autofocus. Nice feature if you need to grab a quick focus and using peaking at the same time.

  • Can someone test if the AE-lock and AF-lock works during video recording? I mean can you toggle AF/AE-lock on-off-on-off while video recording runs.

    It is not working in GH4.

  • I have been using my G7 as the b-cam, unattended on a tripod, wide shot 4K center camera. This PV special G7 has no recording limit so with a 64GB card I can get close to 90 minute uninterrupted footage. I take the GH2 as the main roaming camera. Here is one of those concerts from this summer:

  • Thanks @DrDave. This is great info. Very tempted to try my older Lomo lenses on this G7.

  • Quick Leeming Lut review for the G7: One of the main differences between the GX85 and the G7 is the fact that the G7 has CineD. I'm reasonably sure the GX85 could be "persuaded" to include CineD but so far no dice. When I got the G7 I messed around with CineD a bit and then left it as I didn't see a big difference. After reading LPowell's comments on the Leeming Lut for the JVC 4K cam, I decided to plunk down my 15 euros and give it a spin.
    Why log? And what is CineD? Well, log theoretically gives you some better grading options. The various logs are tweaked for different uses--the "D" in CineD is for dynamic--more dynamic range. But, in this case, it just gives you a better picture, depending on what you think is "better", of course. To me, it looks better.
    Why not Vlog? Well, some ppl don't like Vlog as it sometimes produces some weird banding. Different log curves obviously are going to work better for different types of scenes.
    To make a long story short, if you expose the G7 properly (histogram "to the right") and do not clip (Zebras at 105) you will squeeze more detail and more dynamic range out of this cam with CineD, plain and simple. Drop the custom lut cube from Leeming in the Lumetri panel (or your flavor of NLE), tweak the shadows, contrast, sats, sharpness and grey point, and you're done.
    Not.
    I had to spin the hue wheel to get the skin tone line centered to what it is in "Normal" on the G7. After that, well, not too bad :)
    The fact is, it is all so easy in Lumetri, owing to the scopes, and the side by side comparison produced a noticeable improvement IF you expose properly. With the Histogram, blinkies & Zebras, exposure is really fairly simple.
    I wasn't expecting a big difference in dynamic range, but, actually, it is a real difference. The shocker is the overall detail. OK, maybe there's a teeny bit extra noise, but it's manageable and you can always Neat Video the noise if you choose. Gone is the smearing.
    Leeming's philosophy is to leave Saturation at zero. Although this may seem counter-intuitive, the slight overexposure makes the colors plenty flat. You can always experiment to taste, but it looks pretty close to ideal. Another plus is that if you have say a Sony cam, you can start out with a matching base between cams when you start grading if you get the lut for the other cam.
    Recommended, and not expensive.
    http://www.leeminglutone.com/

  • @DrDave Have a look at Achim Kluck's work on Flickr. He uses the 4K Post Focus feature for a lot of his macros with impressive results. I notice he's also used the gsimplerelease app previously when shooting full res RAW files.

  • @jjj_ri_usa Interesting app. Works on my GM1, too.