@sohus
Since my English is poor, there is no telling whether I am well told to you, but I consider being satisfactorily stabilized, if it is only the purpose to enlarge frame size at the time of high stress, and Q value is raised.

For example...
http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/19360#Comment_19360
I do not feel interest to this stable setting because frame size will become small too much under the influence of AQ1 at the lowlight.

@driftwood At what setting did you see it pullback ? Seriously, I've seen higher than that run for over a minute to two with the 66M AQ2 without falling back. I run deathchart tests for at least 2 minutes (usually over) to check for cadence problems so I've seen it hold consistently over 1,000,000 quite a lot. Pretty sure @proaudio4 has seen that too, as IIRC he also runs deathchart tests in excess of 2 minutes. Or are you all talking about low GOPs only ? You do know that doing the T1 T4 setting is known to cause the camera to pullback some way into a shot ? Which was discussed/observed when it was first mooted as a fix for the cadence pulsing, and @proaudio4 raised it again more recently. Maybe thats what you're seeing.

@sohus I've enclosed a deathchart test of my 88M AQ2 running at ISO 800 SS 1/125 to show that the camera can be consistent at a high frame size. Two images, one at the start of the stream and one at the end. Shot length is 2 minutes (I've also just found a 2 and a half minute shot with the same frame sizes that remains consistent).

@bkmcwd yes, keeping it around 150M is the best bet as its easier for all of us to find SD cards that can handle that.

Someone just try the P/B GOP3s - please!!!!

Elecard buffer analysis can report minute drops and rises from the constant.

timing

@driftwood No I'm not, I'm just saying that I'd like to know how elecards buffer analyser gives you information relating to in camera stability at certain settings, as it cannot tell you about how the in cameras record buffer performed. I added some of my background to assure you that it won't be a complete PITA to actually explain it.

@stray Good grief, I'm not challenging the program at all, I'm merely asking you how the analysis it gives you, analysing a buffer different to the one that is actually in camera (playback buffer) is indicating that a setting is actually stable. Thats all, settle down.

Please stop throwing around terms in sentences that actually say nothing at all.

I agree, thats why I suggested PM. You don't seem to want to offer an explanation/answer anyway so lets drop it.

Edit: However your statements are giving others the impression that settings aren't stable/quite right based on the elecard analysis. You may be completely correct in these statements, all I wanted was an explanation of what its analysis provides that points towards your statements. If only so I, and maybe others, could understand and have confidence in them. We're all sharing knowledge and our findings here after all. Streamparser, for me, is pretty clear when things are stable or not, and we can also check the footage in post with brutal tests too.

Stray you are correct regarding T4=T1. After so many frames it eventually drops i-frame size. I'd stay away until we know more.

Also, I'm not sure why the 44M AQ4 GOP12 ended up in this topic. You're right, Ralph_B 's HDMI comparison to 44M AQ4 under motion was not good. It was the worse out of all the tests. (He did not test stock settings).
66M AQ2 (8/29) for 24H is rock solid. Alhtough, I can't disagree with driftwood "stability all round"
since his message is not particular to 24H, but all settings in the 44M verses 66M.

@proaudio4 Look for GOP3ILLA. Theyre insane!

@proaudio4
My latest ini file is here.
http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/19588#Comment_19588

If you cannot rocord under extream stress, please back to this. :-)
http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/19484#Comment_19484

@proaudio4
Welcome!

" limits down a bit?"
Yes!
#19588…FLx1
#19484…FLx0.95

As I mentioned, I am not sure that my test is enough or not…

EDIT:
I also think that if you cannot record, you can try to change Top&Bottom multiple from 6.6 to 6.5.

driftwood,
Have you determined the limitation on datarate? Is the bottleneck happening on the databus for SDHC, or is a different hardware, or AVCHD limitation?

Yes, I do know that not many cards can sustain over 15MB/s. Also, I imagine burst speed rates may matter too.
We really need to sort these fucking cards out and really weed out the best. The problem is there's slight differences occuring off the manufacture line and also there's fake one out there too.

This is a bit frustrating since USB 2.0 speeds max bandwidth is "supposed" to be 60MB/s (480mbps)

The reason I ask, is that in the end > as you know GOP1 is the best for motion and post work.

I know we are hitting a bandwidth limitation. If we could just figure out what limit we're hitting first.