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Atomos Shogun 4K recorder
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  • This is a device that’s set to unleash total magic from the Sony A7S in 4K. It also offers a way for Panasonic GH4 users to record 4K in 10bit to ProRes rather than heavily compressed 8bit 4:2:0 H.264. For the Samsung NX1 it is also compelling, offering us a way to bypass the compression of H.265 altogether (and the lengthy transcoding stage), instead going straight to 4K ProRes in various flavours.

    http://www.eoshd.com/2014/12/atomos-shogun-review-part-1/

  • Just use the shutter button to start/stop recording on the GH4.

  • btw. -- i can not understand why someone can see the remote start via HDMI as a useful feature? when using the shogun, everybody will choose the 10bit recording mode. that implies, that internal recording in the GH4 will not work anymore. so why should i like to start it on the camera?

    the other -- much more annoying! -- aspect i see, concerns the GH4 power saving features, that always irritate me a lot. when power saving is active, you have to press the record button twice to start capturing. that's very distracting. i have lost important shots again and again because of this wonderful 'feature' and i could not figure out any way to disable this behavior completely.

  • @mash - is this January date from a Panasonic or Atomos press release? Thanks

  • this was the answer in a german forum discussion yesterday. but in in the meanwhile i did some further testing and others too: the HDMI lag of the GH4 is not more then 3-5 frames, but in the actual shogun product demonstration you can count 9 frames. :( the gh4 update is protracted till january. they are working on HDMI timecode embeding etc. i hope, they will also fix some other well known synch issues of the GH4 simultaneously.

  • @superset - good question @mash - whats your source on this?

  • Where's the GH4 Dec firmware update that's supposed to address HDMI issues?

  • atomos representatives argue, that all this horrible latencies have their cause solely in GH4 HDMI output delays. :(

  • Who the heck has set up his microphone?

    But the feature set is impressive!

  • the latency of the monitor looks a little bit disappointing.... but this could have its cause in GH4 shortcomings perhaps.

  • its now finally out:

  • @chauncy - how is it costing Panasonic? Atomos have been lobbying them to fix the HDMI output virtually since the gh4 was released and they STILL haven't released the firmware yet. So how does Atomos finalise their firmware whilst Panasonic drags its heels?

  • Well, then why didn't they make a recorder? Sony seems to be introducing a new camera nearly every other day, why not a decently priced recorder? They must have many more engineers than Atomos.

  • "I’d like to thank everyone for the positive comments and support we receive on a daily basis for Shogun"

    what is he talking about? Positive comments for a product no one has?

    I won't even consider gh4 or especially 4k on a7s until I see 4:2:2 footage and how it grades. Panasonic and Sony must be fuming, this has to be costing them. Sooner or later people will go to the next camera.

  • That is the annoying thing, as a colorist and an owner of the gh4 i really am curious to see how much a difference the 10 bit 4:2:2 makes if they would just shoot 10 seconds of a color chart at each iso and share the raw footage i would be estatic

  • Doubt we'll see any GH4 footage until Panasonic release the firmware upgrade, sadly

  • Some UHD GH4 10bit 422 test footage would be appreciated...

  • what is this, like the 20th delay? And they still don't have any real test footage to even show?

  • @IronFilm

    Thing is, initial response can bury the products. No one will dig into big negative feedback mass.

  • Weird.... why not just ship the hardware now? So people can get it sooner, and they can supply the firmware update instantly online.

    Or... is the firmware really that bad currently?

  • First of all, I’d like to thank everyone for the positive comments and support we receive on a daily basis for Shogun. It is truly overwhelming.

    To all those at recent events and trade shows excited to see the Shogun first-hand and the filmmakers who are eagerly waiting for the Shogun to unlock the potential of their 4K camera, we thank you for your support. In particular to those who have made official pre-orders on Shogun we value your loyalty and have worked with our resellers to ensure the initial batch of Shogun units are shipped to you first.

    With the original launch date now passing, I felt it was important to personally address where we are at with the release of Shogun. In terms of hardware, we have closely monitored the build of the first production units and are proud of the manufacturing quality. There is nothing preventing us from shipping the Shogun and its accessories from a hardware perspective. Although the Shoguns are physically built and ready to ship, the firmware is taking longer than expected to finalize taking into account our high standards of reliability.

    We know that the cornerstone of our success in the last 4 years has been delivering the technology professionals need at the right time & price without any sacrifice for reliability & performance in the field. So while we feel everyone’s pressure to have Shogun available, we refuse to release a single sub-standard Atomos feature. We will not treat our community of users as Beta testers and will not release the Shogun until the standard we are famous for has been met.

    We absolutely understand everyone’s disappointment and appreciate that many shoots have been planned around the Shogun becoming available. We ask that you continue to be patient as we finalize our firmware and release a product that will be worth the wait.

    We expect the product will be delivered within days of the final firmware becoming available and expect all back orders to customers to be fulfilled by Christmas.

    Thank you to our community of Atomos users, our team continues to be inspired to make better products based on your creativity and feedback.