@peaceonearth From specs regarding recorder: "Lossless compressed CinemaDNG RAW with film dynamic range at 3840 x 2160"...

Really, you think that the budgets of films are ballooning because of unions?

Not all of it (there is just as much to blame at the executive level as well)... but it's no secret that allot many wages are calculated and justified on the physical expenditure that is exerted due to the size of rigs, grip, ect. When cameras can be shrunk to the size of a directors view finder (i.e. Pocket Cine Camera and the like), allot of the wages and costs aren't justifiable anymore... and rightfully so, as this is the nature of technology and progress. Do you really expect these people to just lay down their hammers and walk away? No. Obviously they're going to spread FUD rhetoric about the new gear/methods being "unprofessional" and justify the use of old (heavier, harder to rig, ect) as much as possible.

I remember reading literature in a friend's local-600 newsletter about fighting AGAINST automatic-focusing tools... because they take away the job of focus pullers. They fight these battle (and win) all the time from what I can gather. This is exactly the kind of mindset that leads to movies still (in general) being made like they were in the 70's... when Lucas and friends made the last schism. We're due for a new one soon...

Sorry, it's a bit off-topic, but I wanted to explain that I'm not bashing things for no reason...

@peaceonearth what do you mean you will still need a raw recorder? the URSA has a built in (dual) RAW/ProRes-recorder, no..?

EDIT: Curious about one thing though: Do you only get HDMI-in for the recorder if you go for the no-sensor version..?

EDIT2: Never mind, I suppose the HDMI is just part of the sensorless module, so you only have to switch the modules.. Should have looked more at the photos before asking..

hmm I am not sure where is the big benefit over the 4K BMPC? URSA has XLR audio, PL mount option, audio levels and audio meters, 50/60p, new form factor with a huge display.

but.. you will need still a raw recorder. I am not sure also whether the display will be useful in sun light. The sensor is (still) the same and adding 1,000$ for a recorder lifts the price difference over 4.000$.

I hate to say it, but those Hitler videos never get old for me.

Hitler isn't happy.

Relax fellas, I was joking about the size. I'm strictly an amateur video enthusiast and am in no way in the demographic for this camera.

I actually agreed about the screens until I found out that you could mirror the video out to them.

Takes care of assistant side, and operator. Kinda weird, but interesting.

I think the form factor is great. Perhaps more screens than necessary, but I don't count that as a real issue. The specs are nice too. Cards might not be cheap, but that's the price of playing in the 4K games.

The only downside I can find is that it's highly probable it will be another BlackMagic prototype/beta. Someone on the BMD forum used the term "shell game" with their unfinished products, followed by an annual drool-inducing announcement of a new "coming soon"... and it's really looking accurate. Edit: Pyramid Scheme might be more accurate, I think.

Again, nice(!!) looking camera and nice spec sheet. But one can't ignore the history of the manufacturer. You'd be insane to buy this and believe it's going to be 95% solid out of the box.

Most unoriginal joke today. Congrats. =P Just ribbing

And lol JP

At this price and with this feature set, most of you need to shut up and go back to filming bushes with your hacked gh2 and 50mm f1.8.

@vicharris Oops, I had mistakenly thought the BM4k was 13 stops, not 12. My bad.