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2K BlackMagic Pocket Cinema Camera, active m43, $995
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  • Ian_TIan_T

    .....and remember....the sharpness (detail) of RAW on the BMCC looks like night and day vs its ProRes output. So....if this isn't RAW from the BMPC then...as good as this is....it only gets better from here. :-) m2c

  • neokooneokoo

    Those three test clips do have noise, but it's not that bad, close to what I've seen on GH2. Does anyone know what ISO they were shot at?

    Anyway, good to finally have an affordable ProRes cam on the market. If it had 48p/50p, I'd already be handing over money.

  • bwhitzbwhitz

    Footage from that great dane promo looks awful. I think someone else said it here... but if you really think that JVC camcorder footage looks better than any DSLR, you should be nowhere near a film-set. Looks very, very, cheap. Nowhere near anything resembling "filmic".

    As as the BMPCC footage looks, I think it's definitely on par with GH2/GH3 level detail... and probably has more "real" detail in the end honestly. These vids aren't "sharp" yet... but they have "detail". GH2 has more processing than these prores files. I remember that night-time video JB posted earlier and some of those city scape shots definitely showed more fine-detail than a GH cam. These vids look good for what they are. Definitely not from a "real" shoot, with lighting and ect, so I don't know what people are expecting to see here?

  • caveportcaveport

    The original ProRes file shows a little noise but the black level is way too high. I don't think we should be too critical as grading ANY footage that has less than ideal exposure will reveal issues that a properly exposed scene will not. The GH2 8bit 4:2:0 format has MANY more issues than the BMPCC 4:2:2 ProRes. Testing these very rough shots in Resolve shows me that this is about as bad as this camera will look! Bring it on!

    BTW I work as a colourist on broadcast TV shows and have been an editor & technical director for over 30 years. I choose to ignore uninformed comments and do my own tests. My opinion is that the GH2 is a great little camera with some issues to deal with and the BMPCC is a great little camera with slightly less issues to deal with!

  • _gl_gl

    @jakepowell, 'coz it does no filtering? (guess)

  • jakepowelljakepowell

    any speculations why this footage seems to be so noisy in the lows?

  • luxisluxis

    @No_SuRReNDeR NeatV. is a lifesaver. What did you use to do the grading here?

  • No_SuRReNDeRNo_SuRReNDeR

    @luxis Yeah Ive been playing with it and noise is about rough in some spots after the grades. on the street above the girl on the lefts feet and the window in the background. I guess its time i fork the 50 bucks for NEAT anyways been putting it off.

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  • GravitateMediaGroupGravitateMediaGroup

    @quinetiam it's only good for some uses, not all or every use.

  • thegood83thegood83

    @QuinEtiam Overgraded. Little Content. Lacks Filmic Qualities. It's what I expected.

  • QuinEtiamQuinEtiam

    a real camera

  • luxisluxis

    @No_SuRReNDeR "The sky not being a banding nightmare is more accurate... " amen!

  • mattherematthere

    JB originally linked to the three files in a tweet this morning, I have heard that additional footage was linked later in the day.. But the bandwidth problems have blocked the tweet links, there are a few mirrors popping up now :)

  • luxisluxis

    NeatVideo should suffice. If i am not wrong it would work better with this footage then the gh2.

  • QuinEtiamQuinEtiam

    Ok they have one setup up at the Vistek shop, with a panny 1.7

    On the Apple 27"

    Frigging stunning. Amazing.... really.

  • No_SuRReNDeRNo_SuRReNDeR

    @HenryO The sky not being a banding nightmare is more accurate... cant shoot the sky with Gh2, have to be very careful it seems. For a sub 1000 dollar camera that will eventually have RAW not thinking this great is just lunacy.

  • AusboyAusboy

    Really nice to have original footage and I can't wait to take ownership of one soon. To be honest, it's not wow territory though. Sure the sky isn't blown and that's a welcome change from a GH2 but the gritty, noisy sensor thing.......I guess it is a Blackmagic camera characteristic that's not going away until they nick some of Sony's sensors or tech he he he. Will have to figure out where in the chain to do noise reduction for sure. Resolution is okay but certainly could have helped with a tad of oversampling. I think that with fast lenses and an anamorphic lens this thing will be amazing. I think it is feasible to get a Voigtlander 25 mm as the taking lens with the crop right? Anamorphic specialists? I mean that would be quite a setup. It would also be amazing in that the centre of the lens will be used so hopefully no soft corners at all. Am I on the right track with my thoughts? Anyway thanks to JB for the footage.

  • _gl_gl

    @juMo, yeah the noise is pretty hard.

    Do we know if there's any in-camera noise reduction? If not that would explain the grain, don't forget cams like the GH's heavily filter noise.

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  • JuMoJuMo

    @luxis Not that I've read. Judging by the fact that it's a day shoot, we could assume it's as low as possible, but that's no guarantee. As far as I know there wasn't a corresponding post to these files (yet).

  • luxisluxis

    @matthere thanks! that was fast. Btw where is the original post of J.B.?

  • jleojleo

    Here's a mirror for the Prores files from Voldemort's Castle:

    https://www.copy.com/s/a3Ye8xLctRNy/pocket%20public.zip

  • luxisluxis

    @JuMo Good to know. Is there any info on the iso used?

  • mattherematthere

    Bmpcc footage - bottom three files here :) http://fil.io/FL5kh/Footage%20from%20Blackmagic%20Pocket%20Cinema%20Camera

  • JuMoJuMo

    @luxis No problem man. Original footage all the way, frames saved from AE as TIFF (8mb each), then I converted to PNG-24 in photoshop CS5.5. in regards to noise: I found the noise in the sample footage to be less nice and grainy than the 2.5k Blackmagic cams. It's certainly acceptable for some situations, but I found the chroma noise was pretty high in the mid-darks, it becomes much more noticeable when saturation is boosted. Still an absolutely amazing image for a thousand dollars. And I was pleased to find out the noise cleans up SUPER well with Neatvideo.

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