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"Cinematic" - what does it mean ?
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  • fatpigfatpig

    cinematic also refers to the right shutterspeed/fps relation. optimally, cinematic look is achieved using a 180 degree shutter, which means 1/50th if you are shooting 25fps, or 1/100th on 50fps respectively.

    otherwise it will always look blurry or strobey (which gives the homevideo hint)

  • mpgxsvcdmpgxsvcd

    In my opinion Dynamic Range is what cinematic means. The thing that makes most videos look like "videos" is that the sky blows out and there is no shadow detail. The GH2 was horrible for stock dynamic range. However, the higher bit rates of the hack allowed the shadows to be pulled aggressively without greatly affecting the noise.

    With the GH3 it will have the high bit rates in stock form and it will have a much much greater dynamic range to begin with. Pulling the image and videos won't be as necceassary even with a stock camera. Plus it will just handle noise better than the GH2 because of the new sensor.

    All of that will make it easier for you to get what I consider to be a "cinematic" or more "filmlike" image with the GH3. However, I think that with extra work the hacked GH2 will get almost the same image as the GH3 in the normal 24p modes.

  • lumiere61lumiere61

    Thank you to Everyone for the kind and prompt response ! So I go to read the GH2 related topics. It seems indeed the right place to start my learning process. Kind regards, gino

  • oscillianoscillian

    Any graphical medium projected in a cinema theater ;) Or: When the pixel matrices interconnect in flux with hypersampling of banding in the noise spectrum (in contrast with video-ish: When the pixel matrices DISCONNECT in flux with hypersampling of banding in the noise spectrum). I.M.H.O. @svart Or very cinematic bushes, eller hur?

  • MirrorkisserMirrorkisser

    @oedipax, svart: looool :)

    @lumiere: well there is no such thing as cinematic, although tonalt gives a good hint what most people understand as cinematic. Those things you can achieve with the panasonic gh2 without any problems, if you use it right. so as you already suggested, filmlike is the better term.

    It all depends on the amount of money you have. How much you want to spend for the camera body itself, what kind of lenses you want to go with.

    The gh2 is a bang for a buck, you dont get anything comparable for as little money, plus you can put many nice old lenses on it, which give a more flimlike look. Camera body plus a decent set of lenses should put you in the region of 1400-1500 euros.

    The next level is attainable at perhaps 2500-3000 euros, if you for example go for the canon 6d, nikon d600 with several prime lenses. From then on its almost an open end, you can spend as much as you like.

    Since its a new hobby for you, i think the gh2 is perfect to start with. It gives you great image and if you dont like it, you have not spent too much money...

  • svartsvart

    No handheld camera. No cats. No bushes. Real plot. :)

  • OedipaxOedipax

    Like porn, it's one of those things that you know it when you see it :)

  • tonalttonalt

    For me it's natural skin tones (and other colors also), shallow depth of field and maybe anamorphic format.

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