It all really depends on what you shot. For example on much of the paid work that I get the Tokina might be used a fair bit since we're always crammed in a small space and the client wants a wide shot, but for my personal work the Nokton would be used much much more.

@matthere : I can't afford this one ;) @robmneilson : I was thinking the same about small spaces, that's the main reason why I decided to invest in a new lens. But I fear I won't be using it a lot compared to the Voigtlander.

Give me your advices ! ;)

I'd say 25mm focal length is very good on M43. Highly recommend it.

Tokina 11-16 is an excellent lens, too. SLRMagic 12mm is ok. Lumix 14mm 2.5 is very good, too.

Get'em all :)

I would not trade my Lumix 14mm unless I could for sure buy another one--one of the all time great lens bargains.

+1 on the Lumix Pancake.

I just ordered a Pana-Leica 25mm 1.4 and excited about it. Way cheaper than the the Voig and quality is superb based on forum feedback (havent tested on my own yet so you decide), so I'd recommend that instead

I'd suggest getting the panasonic 14mm pancake - very cheap via the bay and based on what you said, would do the trick for your wide shot needs.

Just my 2 cents ;)

@DrDave @Soup @MattRobertson7 : I already considered the Lumix 14mm but I'm not fond of the Lumix look (not very cinematic, but not video-y either). Moreover I need a FF friendly lens, which isn't the case with Lumix lenses.

I still haven't decide yet, the Voigtlander is by far one of the most cinematic lens out there, it has a lot of "character", it may be a bit soft, anyway I'm not into tack sharp lenses. FOV is good but I really don't know it's wide enough for wide shots in close spaces.

The tokina should less compress backround, adding more depth in the shot (I guess), but I will need a new ND + focus ring (yeah I was stupid buying a 52mm variable ND)

I will check out some footages shot with SLR 12mm

Thanks for your answers, keep posting your advices ;)

+1 on samyang/rokinon primes!

I didn't mean the 14. It does have some bad reviews but I have the 35 and 85. Love em both! I plan on getting the 24 as soon as I can find a deal on a used one. I also picked up an old version of the Tokina 28-70 which is spec'd far better than the new versions and love shooting with it as well. It cuts very well with the Rokinon primes and my Tokina 11-16 but I'm not sure if it's FF friendly or not.

@krotal Other than Oly/Panny m43 wide angle lenses, you can't avoid barrel distortion. Even SLRMagic 12mm 1.6 has noticeable distortion.

To my eyes, rectilinear lenses are not friendly to wide angle portraits. It's good for architecture shots.

About cinematic look, I still don't know what it is, but I know wide angle + tack sharp are happy marriage.

Well if you are keeping the 35, then the 11-16 would be IMO your best choice. The 25 is too similar to your 35 and frankly I find the 35 focal length more "interesting" then the 25 which is a bit "normal" looking. Take a look at Musgo and see how the Nikkor-Tokina Combo looks like:

@vesubio uses the Nikkor 28 2.8 and 50 1.4 but I think your 35 would fit in nicely. Later add a Samyang 85mm 1.4 to complement your kit.

All you ever need are three lenses really, everything else is a bonus: 25mm or 35mm, 50mm, and a 85mm. You could argue that because of the crop you would need a widey like a 15mm. Well fair enough, but you could always adjust your vantage point on a 25 or 35mm to get wide.

I sold my Nokton 25mm cos i found it hard to focus when i am on the run. Of course the same may be said of any fast glass, but lenses that go under f1.4 in general require alot more mastery and time.

My Carl Zeiss lenses: 20mm, 28mm, 50mm, 28-85mm Angenieux: 35-70mm, 45-90 Samyang: 35mm, 85mm

The zooms are in general slower, and they stop down when you tele, so they are mostly useful in broad daylight. The Angenieux 45-90 is tremendously sharp, and constant at f2.8

As much as possible, i will use prime lenses for any given shoot. The zooms come in handy on corporate gigs when i haven't the time nor luxury to swap glass. Also, i much prefer manual lenses for their slightly more organic film look on a digital sensor. I tend to avoid AF especially the Panny lenses cos they are tack sharp and video-ey.

But i think Driftwood's new hack can change all that

I really wish they had the 17.5 f.95 an adaptable mount, trying to steer away from investing in M43 lenses. But its a darn good lens. I keep renting it, I should just buy it but don't wanna plop down the cash. And the rokinon 35mm and 85mm combo seems far too tele for me on a crop sensor. You won't get anything wide with either of those. 85 basically restricts you to tripod only, and the 35 is a very awkward focal length on m43 for me. Something around 25-30 or 40-50 is much more logical to me. 35 just feels really in-between when you're using it. 70mm equivalent is a weird length.

I really feel like this is the achillies heel of using a crop sensor. It makes it harder to get good, cheap, wides (barely any vintage wides, and the ones that are wide are crazy expensive) and with the lenses you get, you'll need them to be pretty fast so you don't have to push the noisy sensor too far. I feel like lens choice is super easy on like 5D. Yes, its a catch 22 to some extent since even though you can get cheaper lenses (you can film anything with a 35mm, 50mm, and 85mm, all the most common focal lengths), you can't adapt as much on a FF sensor as you can with m43.

With the tokina, really its probably just gonna be used as mainly more of a specialty lens. 11 is too wide for me on m43, and 16 is not close enough to be a 35mm equiv. I'd get the voigtlander 17.5 if I were you. Its HUGE too if you're filming events. Its indespensible for weddings, especially getting sweet dancefloor footage. You'll be less shaky with it than the 25, its a really comfortable running around length, and you can shoot at night with it and not even push the iso much. It looks more cinematic, and even though its wider you can actually get some shallow DOF. Plus the voigtlanders always seem to hold their value really well in resale, so just look at it like you're renting the lens for the time being ;)

Plus the Tokina is constant length which should work fine with your FF :) One more: Vitaliy keeps talking about the Tokina 12-24 Constant f4 which is cheaper then the 11-16. Could be good choice if you're not into super shallow DOF?