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Good quote: On global warming
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    We have to admit that we are redistributing the world's wealth through climate policy. It is necessary to get rid of the illusion that climate policy is somehow linked to environmental issues. Actually, the climate agenda has almost nothing to do with the environment today ...

    Ottmar Edenhofer, UN Climate Change Specialist

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Talked with one guy recently. He is scientist, professor.

    Even outside US and EU it is very dangerous to not fully, 100% agree with global warming agenda.

    As their bosses recently told on meeting - it is advisable to never oppose this during lectures and better not to publish any papers that do not agree with this. You won't be able to do it in leading journals anyway, but now conferences proceedings and publications in smaller ones will be checked, and if something is not good - you can loose various nice things, like lab equipment expenses, payments for conferences travel and so on.

  • garroulusgarroulus

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev

    "hence you can make garbage and you are not interested in support, modularity and updates"

    they don't put their money where their mouth is (im thinking Elon Musk first) so given the world situation today they are ways beyond bias but full decay that smell from faraway... So let's be patient the revolution won't come the way you or me are thinking...but one way or another it will come... History has a lot to say about such greedy class.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @garroulus

    Actually the huge mountain of garbage that is going higher and higher its a obvious sign of wealth maybe to much...so maybe we need to get poorer to rise up for the real revolution...

    Issue is capitalism, as it is based on profits (and they are being made on transactions, or now - even worse, on subscriptions), hence you can make garbage and you are not interested in support, modularity and updates.

  • garroulusgarroulus

    Funny thing im actually a " believer" in environmental changes because of human behavior especially modern society ...

    But the quote above it is a fact...that doesn't have to be believed but just rationally accepted...

    Actually the huge mountain of garbage that is going higher and higher its a obvious sign of wealth maybe to much...so maybe we need to get poorer to rise up for the real revolution...

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