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Chinese invasion: TP-Link
  • Recommend to read interview with TP-Link representatives.
    I use their network equipment and it works perfect (it means that I absolutely do not notice it :-) ).
    Plus interviewer is really smart guy, one of the best Russian IT journalists.

    Russian version - http://www.3dnews.ru/offsyanka/612497/

    English translation -
    http://www.google.com/translate?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.3dnews.ru%2Foffsyanka%2F612497%2F&langpair=ru%7Cen&ie=UTF8&oe=UTF8
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  • @caveport

    Got it. You had some bad experience with specific modem.

  • It was bad product. It was the second one. I had returned the first one and it was replaced by the retailer. All settings were identical on the modems but the TP-Link was never reliable. There's no point guessing what I experienced, and it serves no purpose. It is now ancient history, fossilised and never to be dug up!

  • @caveport

    And 99% of the time it is just wrong settings or bad line :-) Best idea was just return it, as outside of new firmware and some brief manual you won't find anything on manufacturer sites.

  • I contacted local support number & TP-link website support contact page and never had a satisfactory solution to my modem constantly dropping connection. I eventually replaced it with Netgear modem/router and never had an issue afterwards. I guess sometimes there's a bad item that gets passed in QC.

  • @caveport

    Well, I used 3 ADSL modems, 3 routers and all worked wonderfully.

    Have no idea that you mean under support here, as except warranty and firmware it does not matter.

  • I used TP-Link ADSL gear for a year and it was very unreliable. I will avoid in future as the support was non-existent.

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  • The IDC Worldwide Quarterly WLAN Tracker – Q2 2014 Final Release – indicates that TP-LINK dominates its marketplace in market share (measured by units shipped):

    • TP-LINK ranks number one globally at 49.25% market share
    • The closest competitor has a 9.29% market share
    • The top three competitors combined have a 20.66% market share

    TP-LINK continues to lead each quarter in consumer worldwide WLAN shipments for the past three and a half years, according to published IDC Worldwide Quarterly WLAN Tracker reports. In 2014 alone, TP-LINK’s market share in Q1 2014 and Q2 2014 grew from 38.27% to 49.25%, respectively. This represents a substantial gain of 10.98%.

    And this is how it progressed :-)

  • @itimjim

    Thanks for you "input" :-)

  • I've used TP-Link networking gear (mr3420) for nearly two years and they've been dog shit. Constantly locks up after heavy usage, web interface dies so can't reboot.

    I flashed to ddwrt about two days ago to see if it makes a difference on this shitty piece of kit.

  • I have used TP-Link networking gear for almost 2 years, it's great and cheap :)

  • Another article about TP-Link factory

    http://www.ixbt.com/editorial/tp-link-factory-2012.shtml

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    Btw, personally can recommend their network equipment.

  • >It's strange that you consider that people from countries that has been badly hurt by soviet empire (and who lived there, and have their families persecuted) are brainwashed. I think they know better the history of their countries, their families, than you reading "many books".

    It is not strange. I have big expirience talking with this people in person, and it makes huge difference. They are brainwashed. Living in country do not give you any big advantage in understanding, not gives for access to closed information, all it gives you usually are some rumors, local TV and papers.
    I also suggest you to read any book you like about mechanics of our memory and how they can be affected by modern brainwashing techniques,

    Reading many books allow you to understand how it really happened.
    And not having filters and artifical selection of such books makes life even more interesting.
  • Vitaliy,

    It's strange that you consider that people from countries that has been badly hurt by soviet empire (and who lived there, and have their families persecuted) are brainwashed. I think they know better the history of their countries, their families, than you reading "many books".

    You're right when you advise to read books, there is one book written by a french demographer (Emmanuel Todd) in 1976 (The Final Fall: An Essay on the Decomposition of the Soviet Sphere), which predicted the fall of soviet empire looking at numbers that could not be falsified by propaganda : infant mortality rates, suicide rates, etc.

    This man looks at demographic patterns in history, and has predicted many things that happened (the last one was the arab revolutions in a 2007 book (A Convergence of Civilizations: The Transformation of Muslim Societies Around the World).

    Another one of his prediction which hasn't (already) happened is the fall of the American empire (After the Empire: The Breakdown of the American Order).
    you can see an English interview at min. 39 of this video :
    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-560028443045614325#

    The last one which concern me the most is the end of euro, which should happen quite soon.

    You like facts and big picture, this man studied numbers and history his whole life, you should like his books.
  • >Thank you and and I like converse with you because you don't tell me what I want to hear

    My only target is to arise some interest in you to read and research deeper.

    >I understand that you miss for these times but otherwise conquered nations remember these times

    I do not miss anything. History is history, you do not need to miss it.
    But such fact twisting and painting all with black that become common will result in really bad things.
    They won't happen instantly, but they will, I assure you.
    mr Hitler will be looking like a boy playing with ball on the green grass after this.

    >We don't dream about Great Poland. I do not know whether such a determination. We understand where we are.

    As far as I know it is far from reality. :-)
    Almost any nation is famous for such dreams. And Poland especially, for many centuries.
  • >I like your style again :-)
    Is this a sarcasm ? Thank you and and I like converse with you because you don't tell me what I want to hear ( It is not a sarcasm).
    >Just try to read this without so much shit in your head :-)
    Or read any smart man on this period.
    Churchill ? :-)
    >Again, same twisting.
    Oh,this is propaganda. I understand that you miss for these times but otherwise conquered nations remember these times. This is like remembering of boots. Otherwise, remember them kicking boots, kicked otherwise :-).
    >It is sad history of Poland...
    We don't dream about Great Poland. I do not know whether such a determination. We understand where we are. We are between Germany and Russia and we have got greatest relations in whole history.And let it be.
  • You must understand that no one could change your position until you'll read other side yourself and understand that they had been doing.
    Think by yourself and realise that history is not about black and white, also not about fighting for freedom (this is complete bullshit, btw) or all such stuff.
  • Vitaliy, I hope you're kidding right now. I'm not comparing throwing bombs to invasion, I'm comparing attacking enemy to invading allies. I'm also slightly confused what do you mean by "attempt to change system in your country and throw out the goverment by force", as that's exactly what Soviets did here. Party first secretary Dubcek, elected by Slovaks, was supporting ideas of liberals in our government. As I said before, these were eg freedom of religion, press, assembly, speech and travel. He then prepared reforms to bypass mechanisms of Soviet control to be able to achieve such reforms, when those Warsaw Pact forces came, threatened all people and took our leaders back to Soviet Union. Is that what you're talking about? Do you know some other "origins of this conflict"?

    Yes I'm lazy and I do use Wikipedia here. The reason is simple, of course I had to read many books about history (including propaganda from Soviet authors) but most of them were in Czech and I'm not able to do exact citation from them from my head. Would be very happy to be able to do such thing. I always read what I post here from Wiki to be sure, that it contain the same information I was taught and read in books.
  • >Well Vitaliy, it's interesting, that those ppl who actually lived in it are all brainwashed, if they recall those times as a bad ones.

    People, generally like being brainwashed. Nothing wrong with it.
    Your life become easy, all is clear.
    Look at your arguments. You do not want to dig deep, see how complicated is the picture.
    You want to be lazy.

    >You're talking about how bad bad US is, when they support people around their allied base and how wrong was throwing bombs at civilians in WWII, but you find invasion of Allies with tanks as "the only solution at the time".

    This is not funny. Just switch to second gear in your brain :-)
    Idea of comparing throwing bombs at civilians and invasion to support goverment and prevent full scale conflict made by CIA and western counties is just strange. I suggest you to look into your current laws and tell us how it classify any attempt to change system in your country and throw out the goverment by force.
    Turn back and spend time learning about origins of this conflict. Errors made by all sides.
    Just do not use Wikipedia for this :-)

    >We were not affected much by so called "economical crisis", we have one of the smallest national dept to GDP in EU and better than average unemployment rate. So far so good, not really recalling "good old socialistic times".

    Somehow it remainds me of my friend from Baltic countries few years ago :-)
    I really wish you personally not to be affected by problems. it'll be sad to immigrate again and work as maid in UK :-)
  • @Vitaliy

    Well Vitaliy, it's interesting, that those ppl who actually lived in it are all brainwashed, if they recall those times as a bad ones.

    And I found your talking about solution funny as well. You're talking about how bad bad US is, when they support people around their allied base and how wrong was throwing bombs at civilians in WWII, but you find invasion of Allies with tanks as "the only solution at the time". Prague Spring wasn't getting to "other system", it was an idea of slight freedom in socialistic country after truly strict 50s, which were full of made up political processes and "many people disappeared completely" (ones that can be not very handy in new order). This one was one of the first ones - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milada_Hor%C3%A1kov%C3%A1

    As for country we are doing relatively well. We were not affected much by so called "economical crisis", we have one of the smallest national dept to GDP in EU and better than average unemployment rate. So far so good, not really recalling "good old socialistic times".

    @Mihuel

    No need to be sorry anymore. I believe it's good that you know about your history but that's it. In order to injustice we would have to hate many countries incl. Germany, UK, France, ... No need to apologize anymore, I'm just sad to see, that many people are already forgetting.
  • >Yes, you have got right and I think it was good for those countries that have not been in the Communist bloc because these countries have governments care more about people, lest the people would not support another idea

    I like your style again :-) Good words twisting.
    Good democratic countries vs bad communist block. Ya. Ya.
    Go get english edition of Stalin interviews and speeches.
    Just try to read this without so much shit in your head :-)
    Or read any smart man on this period.

    >Every empire is the same

    Again, same twisting.
    Non of the emires are the same. Back to book, learning history.
    Same with China. What "good democratic nations" do not like so much in Africa?
    It must be something bad, right? They do not like that China are not fucking poor countries, but instead teaches them, building hospitals, factories. Same that USSR had been doing in Afrganistan.
    And no, US and other "democratic world" are not doing this.
    In fact they are closing down all factories that they could in vassal countries.
    Why? Beckause they don't give a fuck about people who live here.
    They need them as cheap labor force with declining standard of living.

    >We have to choose this devil because no one can help us.

    It is sad history of Poland. One period of dreams about Gread Poland always ends with necessity to spread legs and let progressive western nations fuck you. Just do not complain in the process :-)
  • >You had two systems fighting for death...
    Yes, you have got right and I think it was good for those countries that have not been in the Communist bloc because these countries have governments care more about people, lest the people would not support another idea. Unfortunately my country was in another shit. Today we have not any balance so world is going down. There is no powerful, real idea against capitalism.
    >How it is related?
    Every empire is the same. I do not say that NATO is doing good job in Afghanistan. They doing the same shit. They try to make their fucking luck on potency of the model as before the Soviet Union. Yes ,I compare USA to USSR. Why ? Because I don't like mother fuckers who telling me how I must to live.
    >They'll also fuck your country
    It is easy to say this,very easy but have you got any solution ? I do not think so. We have to choose this devil because no one can help us.
    Cheers :)
  • >I do not understand this. Please explain this. Who did this to me ?

    I think that I am not the one to ask. You need to look back and find :-)

    >What solution ? Tanks ? Very funny :-)

    It is not funny. Real life is rarely funny.
    You had two systems fighting for death. Result of one system winning you'll be able to expirience pretty soon and all this tales about stale bread will turn into much more bleaked reality.

    >Finns, Chechens ,Afghans ?

    How it is related?
    Problem with your words is that you use propaganda stamps.
    They are weak and absolutely unuseful.
    We don't have any problems with any of mentioned nations or countries (I don't know why you mixed them).
    As for Afgans, their leaders in last 10 years constantly complain that Russia is too weak to get this NATO out of their country and continue help them as they did. Leaders of warriors who fought our army tell this now :-)
    All NATO did is just made Afganistan into one big factory to produce heroin and other such stuff.
    NATO want money, fuck people. They'll also fuck your country, but it could be too late to complain.
    And read home books about all this conflicts.
    They are enlightening. You'll stop posting useless stamps after this.

  • @Vitaliy
    >Interesting to know how brainwashing works.
    I do not understand this. Please explain this. Who did this to me ?
    >And words of both of you prove that solution was, indeed, very effective.
    What solution ? Tanks ? Very funny :-)
    >Baltic countries also did not like USSR very much...
    And Finns, Chechens ,Afghans ?
    >Many now think that it had been best ever.
    It is a simple because in my country this illusion exists too .
    Many people yearn for the days of communism because they do not have time to think. There was even a saying: if you stand or to lie - the salary should be. Also miss the fact that they were young. As a young man that the world looks a lot better. It's so human.
    Vitaliy, you is not lived in Poland in the 80's. You do not know what the world was bleak and hopeless. I lived and I remember and what are the differences. You are a mathematician and philosopher, so you can see the future better than me, but I remember how I ate stale bread. Perhaps in USSR was different. I don't know.
  • @Mihuel

    >I'm from Poland and I'm really sorry for 1968. I am ashamed that my country took part in the destruction of the Prague Spring.

    Interesting to know how brainwashing works. Its pretty effective.
    So called "Prague Spring" happened because of some errors made before it, but because they had been made no other solution existed at the time. And words of both of you prove that solution was, indeed, very effective.

    >Do not you think that some people from former communist bloc countries may not like the USSR for the same reason why people from the Middle East, South America do not like the U.S.?

    :-) I like words twisting game here. Reason can't be the same, because facts are quite opposite.

    Baltic countries also did not like USSR very much. But something strange happened with their economy (same thing will happen with your economies, btw). Something did not work out :-).
    And it turned that USSR historic period was not bad at all. Many now think that it had been best ever.
    How funny is that?