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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • kurthkurth

    @MikeLinn....oh and there were just 100 photographers there coincidentally ....

  • kurthkurth

    corona man made..... https://osf.io/d9e5g/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    India and useless work

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    Infection via contact even in lack of any masks and all always is below 5% of infections in case of flu like viruses (including coronavirus). In short - it does not matter in scape of epidemy.

    But it is good thing to scare the shit out of people.

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    It is paper ralated to famous statements by Luc Montagnier.

    They had been refuted by all virusologists with reputation.

    It seems like he wants publicity as lately he had various issues.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Why we'll have lot of things permenent after coronavirus?

    • We'll have medicine being cut and restructed and new rules imposed.
    • We'll have education partially or fully moved to distant methods, some of it will be gradual.
    • We'll have much more distant work
    • We'll have special new fees and restrictions on personal transport
    • We'll have resirictions in long travel and air travel
    • We'll have much less kindergardens, all distant workers will be asked to keep their children at home
    • Lof of small businesses will die not during total lockdown but after realising that reopening won't allow them to survive for long
    • Restrictions in public transport won't be lifted in next year

    This will make workforce significantly cheaper, especially in best life level countries.

    In US average mid class worker will be getting around 50-70% of the goods and services he can get now for his salary.

    Public spending will be also cut significantly already in coming months.

    Next stage of issues will come from home prices volatility and/or US debt issues.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....James Lyons-Weiler is still using terms like "we believe" ...so created is still in the realm of conjecture. The way I see it, if one believes it escaped from the lab, it's pretty difficult to believe , if they had it, they wouldn't have done something with it ! Everybody wants "publicity". Read thomas kuhn structure of scientific revolution....most new ideas come from outsiders who don't fit the current paradigm. He believes dna emits electromagnetic radiation. So the priests ban him to neverland.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    He believes dna emits electromagnetic radiation.

    Yes, I know he had been hardly kicked for this.

    Issue is that scientific community is like bulls herd. This is that we see with coronavirus also.
    It does not matter much if you are smart and have good ideas and research. But if you are good in relations and getting financing (this also means you agree with authority and follow popular trends) - you are making good progress in hierarchy.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...everybody thought aristotle was right for 2000 years ( maybe 1700?) , until this alchemist named newton showed up.

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  • kurthkurth

    masks.... https://www.zerohedge.com/health/why-shut-down-covid-19-infections-would-plummet-if-80-americans-just-wore-masks-according

  • kurthkurth

    ""President of Tanzania took samples from animals and sent it to the lab pretending that they came from people. They provided fake names, age and gender. Many of the tests came back positive for Covid"" .... https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=4&v=ETCdueeSdqo&feature=emb_logo ....maybe this solves the asymptomatic mystery? https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-tanzania/president-questions-tanzania-coronavirus-kits-after-goat-test-idUSKBN22F0KF

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    PCR test made by newely trained people can have up to 20% tests (some say upo to 40%) that require rechecking.

    Our country guidance is to use tomography image and not PCR, and make at least 3 PCR tests (usually 4-5 now).

    Issue is that no matter how good or bad PCR tests are you can't hide piles of bodies produced by coronavirus.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Three children in New York have died from a rare inflammatory syndrome believed to be linked to the novel coronavirus, Governor Andrew Cuomo said

    Seems like new round to me.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    US most affected sectors (workerplaces lost)

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    Note that capitalists fired 2.15 millions medical workers also and more to come.

    Best shape without losses (and new workpalces gains) - financial and insurance companies, some stock trading companies, top software monopolies and even middle sized informationa nd survailance companies, computer hardware (servers and similar) companies.

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  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy ...."Issue is that no matter how good or bad PCR tests are you can't hide piles of bodies produced by coronavirus." ....sure u can. Incinerators ? The tests are crap. And ventilators are crap....and they want us to believe hydroxy is crap as well. The people have been betrayed by modern medicine....I think I posted about the children's syndrome...."kids" ? a few days ago.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    As for cremation - it is also easy to track and impossible to hide in any good amount.

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    “Neither Greenpeace, nor Greta Thunberg, nor any other individual or collective organization have achieved so much in favor of the health of the planet in such a short time,” Spanish scientist Martín López Corredoira

    “A miracle happened . . . It is certainly not very good for the economy in general, but it is fantastic for the environment.”

    Thunberg, the 17-year-old Swedish climate evangelist, did caution her fellow warriors not to be too “optimistic” about the pause in carbon pollution because the ­so-called climate crisis “is not slowing down.”

    This guys are enemies of the people, playing like they are on their side (most of the time).

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Millions of U.S. residents were counted as employed in April despite having no job, suggesting April’s true unemployment rate was closer to 20%, much higher than the official 14.7% reported, the Labor Department said Friday.

    Improvements coming.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Its a crash

    The GDPNow model estimate for real GDP growth (seasonally adjusted annual rate) in the second quarter of 2020 is -34.9 percent on May 8, down from -17.6 percent on May 5. After this morning's releases of the employment report by the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics and the wholesale trade report from the U.S. Census Bureau, the nowcasts of second-quarter real personal consumption expenditures growth and second-quarter real gross private domestic investment growth decreased from -21.7 percent and -22.1 percent, respectively, to -33.9 percent and -62.8 percent, respectively.

    During Great Despression worst year had -13.1% GDP fall, for reference.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Finally, act 2 is coming soon

    The Chinese city of Wuhan, the epicentre of China’s coronavirus outbreak, plans to conduct city-wide nucleic acid testing over a period of 10 days, according to an internal document seen by Reuters and two sources familiar with the situation.

    Every district in the city has been told to submit a detailed testing plan by Tuesday for their respective area, the document showed.

    Forced testing. Coming to your town within next month. With police and such measures.

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    On contact tracing

    “In order to save lives, reduce COVID-19’s burden on our healthcare system, ease strict social distancing measures, and confidently make progress toward returning to work and school, the United States must implement a robust and comprehensive system to identify all COVID-19 cases and trace all close contacts of each identified case.

    Illinois Democratic Rep. Bobby Rush has introduced the H.R. 6666 TRACE Act, which includes a $100 billion grant program which would authorize the Secretary of Health and Human Services to create an army of contact tracers operating through healthcare, schools and nonprofit entities, who would perform COVID-19 diagnostic testing "through mobile health units and, as necessary, at individuals' residences, and for other purposes."

    Contact tracing with flu like virus that is transmitted via droplets is most idiotic thing you can do. It is obvious that you can check relatives and work mates, but anything beyong that is pointless shite.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...there's that 666 popping up again. And ...forced testing never gonna happen in USa, although demons might want it so.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    I think in US and few other countries we'll have forced testing on Act 3, with Act 2 will be huge second wave with bodies on the streets.

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