@herbycamer

I got it. :-) Thanks.

@LPowell @bkmcwd

okay, I've go it ... makes sense!

I am still experimenting to gain a better distribution of I- and B-Frames in HBR mode... FB2 and Frame Limits are not yet touched in Natural, GOP3ZILLA and GOLGOP. In Flowmotion the ratio of Bitrate, Frame Limit and FB2 works nicely in HBR mode. My only issue with Flowmotion is the pretty corase noise pattern and quite often it seems to run in fallback mode (footage looks soft). Scenes that do not require to utilze max bitrate look very good, though...

cooool! :-) looking forward to testing it!

@chromekoda

Thanks always! :-)

@towi

I am also improving GOP tables now. I think that the PAL is easier than NTSC. It is because the frame rate is low. I also want you to test them.

@Bonzai

Thanks mate. Looks nice! :-)

"I still want HBR30p (with sound) that can give a similar level of detail at 30fps."

This is very difficult. However, I try hard from now on.

OK. i have had an early weekend so i decided to do a final test between my 2 favourite settings from here: GOP3ZILLA-SednaAQ1C and GOLGOP3-13 with the stock Matrix.

i realy couldnt tell the difference between the two in any of the few test setups i shot. the only difference and surprise was that the GOP3Zilla-Sedna uses up a lot more data then GOLGOP3 for the identical setup.

looking at the results in Streamparser i also saw that the GOLGOP3 was a lot more consistent with QP always at 13 with a maximum Range of 5 and DC always at 3-4. also the I frames were huge in GOLGOP3 and the B frames relatively small.

GOP3Zilla-Sedna however seemed a bit all over the place with QP mostly in the mid 20s and DC between 6-8. the I and B frame sizes were much closer together.

i am no expert at all with Streamparser but am i right to think that the GOLGOP3-Stock Matrix would be a safer bet and more consistent judging by the Streamparser results?

as i said i couldnt tell much if any difference beween the different settings judging purely by eye.

any help would be much appreciated.

Hello @Bmcent1. Thanks for the answer. I know different mode aren't fully isolated, i don't want to say switch off all the others mode but make a patch who optimize a particular mode without compromise, and make all other as good as they can be. I change far more often of situation and scene than i change my recording format. I think that i'm not the only one. I shot always HBR25p or sometimes FSH50i... my 720p50 is only for very specific work.

Thanks

@herbycamer

I think that there are various ideas. Although I give priority to 24p, I think so that the best result also in other modes can be obtained on it. In FSH, HBR, or SH, since the capacity of GH2 is lower than 24p, it is difficult, but while trying many settings, there are some which are understood little by little. :-)

@Siddho

"am i right to think that the GOLGOP3-Stock Matrix would be a safer bet and more consistent judging by the Streamparser results?"

If you do not care about a codec wavering slightly on the finest details scene, I also think so. In Intra settings using low Q value, the codec waver more. Supposing it is satisfactory ... I think that I can recognize the grade whose codec wavers in GOLGOP3-13 to be satisfactory at all.

@oronce

Thanks for testing my settings! :-)

"which one are the best in your opinion for 1980i50 among the different GOLGOP and GOP3ZILLA"

Although the settings former almost same except 24p has been used, I am going to change a few from now on.

@Towi I agree with @jfro. I think it is close to a balance point of Q vs. filesize. trying span50 v1.2 for couple of days.

@kovtun66

Thanks for using my settings! :-)

"is it normal that the first group of pictures in every MTS I shot has 4, not 3 frames? The visual quality of the few first frames is quite affected (because of this, I assume)."

Yes it is. In almost all my settings, although the frames are not stabilized first about 1 second, it operates normally after that.

"is GOLGOP intended (in theory at, least) to always provide slightly higher output quality than GOP3ZILLA, i.e. is it simply the higher bitrate version of the GOP3ZILLA or the difference is deeper?"

I have designed GOLGOP3-13 series so that the codec may work also in a bright place as normally as possible, using low qp under lowlight positively. GOP3ZILLA series is designed so that it may be the all-round setting which realizes high IQ in any scenes. Naturally GOLGOP3-13 which tries to use low qp agressively becomes the higher bit rate.

I think that I will explain the difference in each setting of mine in my topic from now on. http://personal-view.com/talks/discussion/2960/golgop3-13-gop3zilla-natural-welcome-to-gop3-heaven-#Item_28

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This might be just in my camera but, when using bkmcwd GOLGOP3-13_SednaAQ1C_V2.1_BETA2, the camera freezed this week few times totally during the long interviews fisrt time somewhere at 10 minutes running time ... and I was not able to see the clip in the camera. It was in the card, I can see the clip now with my mac with vlc but FCP log&transfer does not recognise the clip nor 5dtorgb. Other clips that were on the card and finished by stopping the camera normally were ok... I was using Sandisk 16GB 30MB/s class10 cards. What do you think BKMCWD , it is easy for me to change the gop to 6 by myself is there other , better ways to make the stream lighter ? I am shooting PAL

bkmcwd Thanks , I really appreciate your work and answer !!!!