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Unmanageable Complexity: War with oppressed (aka terrorists)
  • The French parliament has overwhelmingly approved sweeping new surveillance powers in the wake of the terrorist attacks in Paris in January that killed 17 people at the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo and a kosher grocery in Paris.

    The new bill, which allows intelligence agencies to tap phones and emails without seeking permission from a judge, sparked protests from rights groups who claimed it would legalise highly intrusive surveillance methods without guarantees for individual freedom and privacy.

    Canadian C-51, or the Anti-Terrorism Act, will give spy agencies the power to gather more information from its citizens than before. It'll even allow the government to monitor passport applications, since it also broadens authorities' rights to place names on the no-fly list. Further, it will allow sharing of its citizens' information across government agencies, departments and institutions

    They can share people's info not just on grounds of national security, but also for reasons such as the "economic or financial stability of Canada."

    Well, both things openly and clearly state the obvious. Want to change economic system? You are terrorist and extremist. Want not to remove any personality, but to wipe the system - you are even worse.

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  • Funniest thing here is that someone thinks that court or party or anything like it can restrict it, or at least will prevent this spreading fast. It won't happen as they are servants of ruling class (or representatives of this class themselves).

  • Yeah, heard France was ramping up that stuff in last few weeks. When you said "It won't happen as they are servants of ruling class..", I didn't understand what you meant. What won't happen? And who are servants? Thanks.

  • Politicians and courts are servants. :-)

    As for what won't happen see previous sentence :-)

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