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Samsung NX1, $1300 4K flagman
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  • I've read the Imaging Resource's Q&A. Dunno if the NX1 will be a good camera, but technologically speaking I guess that it is one of the most advanced cameras in the market - if not the most advanced.

  • Q&A

    Is the camera actually capable of recording video at 240 frames? video at 240 frames?

    JK: No.

    DE: Oh, because the codec isn't fast enough to compress and format it?

    JK: Actually, we just didn't implement that functionality, but the DRIMe V and the sensor could do it. When the guys in R&D were working on the Samsung Auto Shot feature, they recorded live 28 megapixel, 240 fps "video" to help with the debugging. We didn't see there being an application for that, at least for very, very few people.

    http://www.imaging-resource.com/news/2014/09/27/photokina-interview-samsung-nx1-redefine-pro-performance-quantum-leap-tech

  • Too bad they can't make a camera good enough to photo all those ppl.

    Camera software requires years of dedication. Japanese companies also internally transfer firmware developers at the moment camera is released (so all this updates are made by very few people actually, sometimes as small as two guys). In Samsung it is much worse according to stories I heard, with teams that can be reshuffled and reassigned in the middle of any task.

  • Too bad they can't make a camera good enough to photo all those ppl.

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    Samsung has a shocking number of software engineers: 40,506 as of 2013. That's almost an entire Google's-worth of people making software. Actually, consider that Google's employee breakdown only lists 18,593 people in "research and development" (read: making software), and it seems Samsung has twice as many software engineers as Google. This army of software engineers is a fairly recent development for Samsung. The software headcount has grown 45 percent since 2011.

    http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2014/09/samsung-has-more-employees-than-google-apple-and-microsoft-combined/

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  • @MarcioK good one! Big LOL...

  • uncompressed 8bit 4:2:0 4K external HDMI output....???

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  • Since Tizen will be used in refrigerators, I guess these will not have problems dealing with heat dissipation when recording 4k :)

  • Samsung Electronics will widely incorporate its Tizen OS in its smart home-use electronics and LCD TVs in 2015, in an attempt to boost the penetration of Tizen using its leading global market status, and to set up a platform for developing the Internet of Things, according to Taiwan-based supply chain makers.

    As usually I am always ahead :-)

  • @tymeorama me too and I'm a GH4 user. If NX 1 is a disappointment than GH4 will serve us well until something better appears.

  • @Eno, ok, I was dreaming of an APS-C successor for my GH2, it seems that it will not be the NX1.

    I will still wait for the official release and see if a miracle happens :D

  • @tymeorama for the moment NX 1 is quite bad in general, not only high ISO. :(

    Samsung put so much effort in advertising this camera, that money where better spent on a good software team.

  • @maxr I'm only hoping that the NX1 will produce better images than the ones we can see... An other point to investigate is that when looking the EXIF of the sample, it seems that the quality of the stills was set to "Fine", whereas the NX1 can save pictures in Normal, Fine & Super fine modes.

    I have looked many other available samples and they were set to "Normal", but I didn't find "Super fine" samples.

    But I agree that for now, the NX1 is quite bad in high ISO...

  • you're analytic and synthetically right @tymeorama, accounting for that I shall also compress my comment to just an ufff

  • About low-light capabilities, I searched some specs about the pixel size, but could only find details about pixel pitch:

    -Samsung NX1: 3.6µm

    -Panasonic GH4: 3.7µm

    -Sony A6000: 3.9µm

    -Sony A7s (FF): 8.4µm

    Samsung claims that "Applying BSI pixels, Samsung’s newest imager improves the light sensitivity of each pixel and increases light absorption in peripheral areas by approximately 30 percent".

    DXOMark labs reviewed the Sony RX100 (non BSI sensor) vs the RX100II (BSI sensor) ans said that :"BSI sensor in the Mk II reveals the low-light capabilities are enhanced by +1/3 stop."

    So, I think that the low light capabilities of the NX1 may be only marginally better than the GH4.

  • @maxr Maybe the picture is compressed: for 28Mp, Samsung says that the max filesize is: 28MB (6480×4320) JPEG (3:2). 9.76 MB is approx. 1/3 of the nominal filesize...

  • @ Vitaliy_Kiselev I don't know how to mark your above comment but you are the best!

  • I still hope for a miracle in image quality department in the final firmware...who knows? LOL

    Usually it is more like this:

    Min and all your team! You being transferred to development of new Tizen based functions for our smart refrigerator. You'll be replaced by former car audio team.

  • Samsung NX 1 impresions: http://www.verybiglobo.com/phtokina-2014-samsung-nx1-first-impression/

    Samsung blinded all card slots, asking not to save images because the firmware is not finalized yet. It seems however that they forgot about WiFi connectivity and some visitors took the opportunity and transfered files via direct link to their smart-phones. LOL

    I still hope for a miracle in image quality department in the final firmware...who knows? LOL

  • Good! It is not bad.

  • That's truly a horrible photo. Bad light, bad white balance, patchy blown highlights, bad smearing. It should be in a textbook on things to avoid, especially the lighting.

  • Oh Dear these jpegs are truly Terrible they look like a Photoshop Filter has been applied. I would love to see a RAW image too see what the NX1 can produce without any processing I have to say looking at these images have turned me off the NX1

  • 1:1 uuuffffffffffffffff
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  • @Vitaliy_Kiselev unfortunately I totally agree with you about Samsung cameras in the past, I just hoped they got in their senses and finally made a good camera. :(