Ι have to confess. GH3 looks to me NOT so impressive BECAUSE my eyes used to GH2 with SANITY 5 and Flowmotion!!! But if i recall the original firmware of GH2 then , yes GH3 with this premature firmware looks better. Finally, i have to wait tests and it is a Personal View for us if it is 600$ worthy to GH2.

VM's footage looks pretty good, I don't get the moaning... The only thing I'm worried about so far is moire attack (guy's shirt at about 1 min.)

edit: LOL Vitaliy, you're a busy bee ;)

To Quote Voldemort who posted the vid..

The GH2 remains unique for being so clean in the way it scales the full sensor from 18MP to 1080p in video mode. What is the tonic? I feel it is needed again here.

Perhaps that is what some of us are seeing, to some ...not a big issue, to others it is. Not a gripe...just an observation.

@GH2UW Just saw your earlier comment about one-to-one testing. Yes, I agree - that is going to be the only way to really judge image quality.

@GH2UW

Your enlightened "bullshit" comment the other day about what I said regarding manufacturers cynically "unlocking" new features in the same camera hardware with only a firmware upgrade is itself "bullshit" in view of recent comment from Canon that "Canon confirmed ... the 1D C 4K DSLR is a 1D X with a firmware update. Identical hardware." $6,000 firmware that is. (canonwatch.com)

Yep, just this guys (and this is just 43rumors other domain) copy-pasted this from Voldemort post.
And this claim is exactly bullshit if you think at least a little.

@bwhitz, I think until we get a direct comparison it's really hard to make such a claim. I just don't see footage as bad as 7D IMO, but I have no direct comparison. Also as i've said we don't know for sure what the settings are and what the footage looks like tweaked for best image.

What I can say is that i'm seeing some nice color and what looks to me like better DR. That much has at least been the consensus from those who were actually at Photokina or have used the GH3. Highest resolution isn't the only thing IMO. I'd trade a bit of sharpness for getting all of the things we've gotten with the GH3 overall. However, there's been no definitive proof we lost any resolution.

footage looks good, resolution looks good, dynamic range doesn't look much better from the way the juggler's white shirt is blown out looks the way I'd imagine the gh2 would, and lastly check out the moire on the guys shirt in the back right in the last cut. That's one of my favorite things about the gh2, moire is almost never an issue. The sony A99 seems like it's got the kind of enthusiasm from the engineers that i'm looking for in the gh3. Any chance of hacking it's codec? ;)
edit: just rewatched it in HD and full screen. noise in the blacks seems better but not in the non black shadows looks just as bad as gh2. video overall looks average for a dslr these days. but that moire is screaming 2009 at me in that last shot.

@Aria Agree completely. That 7D comment a few posts back is just f*cking retarded... post that super-sharp 7D footage for the world to see!! Are you watching the vid on an iPhone, bwhitz?

My main concern at this point is not resolution, sharpness or codec... it is mystery moire. Entirely valid concern. I hope Mosaic can cram something in there if it's not a lens correction anomaly.

@svart Ah, I see. The MAR sensor does not play a role in the downsampling/downscaling/line-skpping choice. Since the aspect ratio is the same either way, and the resolution has [TYPO: should be "has not"] been changed by doubling (or similar) it would be unlikely for it to affect the approach.

However, I am also every bit as interested as you to find out precisely what approach they are using and how it compares to the GH2. Repeated tests have shown that line-skipping results in a loss of detail compared to decent downsampling methods, but my favorites are often considered too slow for real-time use (Premiere CS6 being one exception when GPU accelerated).

I am no expert on the algorithims, but I have repeatedly studied the varying effects of dozens of them on still images and Lanczos3 is one of my favorites in post because of how well it maintains detail while combatting moire.

From what I could tell the lighting in that place didn't look too flattering for filming so I just don't get the negative aspects of what some are saying they see here. Not to mention that this is a PRE-PRODUCTION camera and we know that for a new camera with a new sensor it's quite possible we haven't seen the best this camera can do. It's not as bad as a 7D in terms of detail!!! I mean come on.

Andrew even said he wasn't able to turn down settings so it's quite possible that NR is set high as are most of the other settings we might choose to tweak if we had a fully functioning firmware. It just doesn't look as bad as some are making it sound.

Anyone know if ETC mode is enabled through HDMI out with the GH3?

I'm actually quite impressed with this footage. I think given the newness of the camera and it not having finished firmware, it looks great to me. LOVE the skin tones and highlight handling. It looks a lot closer to what I liked about D800 footage in terms of color. There looks to be PLENTY of sharpness for me.

All of this from a pre-production model that isn't even fully implemented and the user not having any idea yet of just how to get the absolute best out of the camera, is pretty impressive to me. This just makes me want to see more.

@docz

"I'm really excited about this, I skipped on the GH2 because I was happy with my GH1, now maybe I'll take a look at that GH3"

LOL...Your decision making process is definitely easier than for a GH2 user!