@vladnik I don't use Panasonic or any other electronically coupled lenses. If there is some additional sharpening being automatically applied then that may account for some of the GH3's moire problem. I still haven't seen moire as noticeable as this on the GH2.

Has anyone mentioned photo in this thread? If you take a step back, it is a hybrid. Still we want even more video features. I'd love 10 bit, 4:2:2, sure. If I tell people that all my stuff comes from that little photo camera around my neck they stare in disbelief. Perspective.

Take the file samples from Photokina for what they are, rushed, clandestine use of a prototype. Can't really compare those to the perfectly composed, exposed, noise cleaned & edited Vimeo pieces of the hacked GH2.

Thanks Dieter for your write-up of the Q&A and the editing of the interview.

Personally, I'm exited about the GH3, but I need the x 12-35 1:2.8 more than I need a new body. If jobs bring in more, then I'll get a 2nd cam. Most likely a GH3.

@mpgxsvcd I mean for the typical "music-video slow-mo" which is where essentially the entire video is filmed at 30P and played back at 24P. The effect should be subtle enough to be psychological more than an obvious one.

The problem with synced slow-mo is performing it in sync for different rates. Each time I will take the original track and slow it down or speed it up for each frame rate. Lets use a starting tempo of 100 bpm for example.

24P = 100 bpm 30P = 125 bpm 60P= 250 bpm

As you can see, higher framerates are generally un-performable if you are trying to get synced slow-mo.

On the other hand...

24P = 100 bpm 12P = 50 bpm 8P = 33 1/3 bpm

Those are great for some unusual synced looks using long shutter speeds without breaking the 180 degree rule. :)

@mpgxsvd.... I get that for what you typically shoot which i believe is sports/skating etc right?.... For me since I shoot theatrical... typically if I have slowmo the audio is only music as the "cool guy" walks into class etc.... that kinda stuff. 60p slowed down to 24 is good enough typically for me. But if I can save a step and do it on the spot it also makes it easier to see what the result will be as a DOP i often have to show the director playback and they want to see the result right then and there.

@thepalalias

For the GH2 I wouldn't use the slow motion modes at all. 30p is not a fast enough frame rate for real slow motion. It really needs to be 50p/60p or much higher if possible.

@mpgxsvcd I agree about 25% but as to the other question: it depends on codec and bitrate settings.

Using 80% mode the GH2 let me use the 24H codec settings on the material instead of the HBR ones. The bitrate and image quality were higher in several hacked settings in 80% than with HBR and I often used it for music videos where I did not mind tweaking the start time by hand, or for non-sync footage.

"40%, 48%, 80% Slow Motion Video Quick-motion and slow-motion video let you apply a variety of effects to the video timeline. In addition to three types of quick-motion and 80% slow-motion video, the DMC-GH3 includes 48% and 40% slow-motion, all in Full-HD. "

-- That sounds pretty sweet to me. That's all in camera via a mode like the 80% I am assuming.

@AKED Thanks for these and like what I saw!

Maybe the moire is worse in Mov mode...maybe less with avchd. I remember Mjpeg having more alaising/moire than avchd mode on my GH1 & GH2

@mpgxsvcd

It does look gnarly here. Maybe it's just how sharp that lens is? I've been able to invoke similar moire with Zeiss Ultra primes @ T4 on the Gh2, those are super sharp lenses.

But, yeah, that's kinda wild. haha

@mpgxsvcd His shirt is indeed covered in moire. For a moment I though it must be some kind of patterned fabric until I looked at the other frame grab where it is not present. If this is going to be typical of the moire in the GH3's final release then as far as I'm concerned this is a deal breaker. The GH2's lack of moire was a major factor in my decision to buy it. I've never seen moire like this from the GH2. Very disappointing Panasonic.

Does anybody know if the GH3's sensor uses pixel binning or line skipping?

I think a lot of people are overlooking the fact that they have a new OLPF on the sensor. This could significantly change the aliasing/moire attributes of the camera without even going into the details of the new sensor (which I'm willing to bet is Panasonic made..).

@diffusion33 do you know if that is photo mode or still from video? I think the 12800 looks really clean. Only the slightest hint of horizontal lines.

I am sure like everything i try and post here someone somewhere in this giant thread already mentioned this and I per-apolligize to Vitaliy if they did....But....Its on B and H for $1299 --- I dont care...IM SOOOO GETTING ONE!

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/892456-REG/Panasonic_Lumix_DMC_GH3_Mirrorless_Digital.html

I definitely like what I am seeing. However, there was some very distinct moire in the sachel strap and shirt in one of the clips. Here are some frames from it. One frame that shows it and one that doesn't. It clearly shimmers in the downloaded file though. I hope that aspect gets sorted out for the final firmware. I don't want to trade 1 good thing for 1 bad thing.

What I don't see is any hint of compression artifacts. I know these are mostly static scenes but there is no real compression going on in these clips.