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'Apocalypse Now' Experimental Series 1 Thread - BOOM, Intravenus - cbrandin/driftwood AN Soft/Cinema
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  • PNG, LZW, 1995, UINISYS. It would take me back, if I could remember.....

  • @Jim_Simon @thepalalias - Thanks guys, you motivated me to read the PNG standard (which I was not very familiar with). You're right - its mathematically lossless. So PNG files it is! Thanks very much.

  • @abusaifo No testing has been done yet for GF2 and FSH/HBR and 720 modes are still to be primed 100% judging by some of the feedback here it seems.

    @zsound J'adore France - could quite easily live there...

    @har_k Looks great. bkmcwd settings are wonderful.

  • driftwood Can these settings work on gf2

  • Come on guy's, grow up. This is not the "who has the longest dick competition". I think each of you has an equal share of enthusiast followers. It's not a cult it's a group of users who want the best settings, and probably have no idea what the hell you are, technically, talking about but are keen to listen to whatever information you give them in order for them to decide what patch to use. And after swapping patches week after week, at some point one would like to make an informed choice; witch patch to stick to. I choose reacquainted because in the personal-view demo most of the shots I like were shot with this patch. I hear a lot of people say good things about flow motion, so that is probably a good patch too. But no need for me to try. And since I see apocalypse now as an upgrade of the patch I was using, i tried that one and I like it. I didn't crash so far and the results are great. So what the hell do I need all the technical mumbo jumbo for. As long as you guys understand it and use it to make those patches I am a happy chappy and glad I donated $ 20. I will donate again, and you can decide how to split it. So to all of you: respect for what you are doing, please stick to your own thread, respect each others efforts and let anyone else decide what patch they want to use, for whatever reason. Cheers

  • @bkmcwd

    Maybe YouTube also used this '444 matrices' :-) 

  • @har_k

    Many thanks for your beautiful sample footage, mate! Does it look beautifully also in compressive severe YouTube? Let's do our best also about the matrix of HBR! :-)

  • @bkmcwd

    I used "Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO1 'Apocalypse Now' with cbrandin 'Pure Original 444 Matrix'" 24H mode.

    Thanks for amazing quality settings and your hard work!

    *FILM MODE is NOS.(-2,0,+1,-2) and the lens is LUMIX X PZ45-175mm

    *SANDISK Extreme SDXC UHS-I (45MB/s) 64GB

  • @driftwood, just SPURB...!!

  • Driftwood, hope you're enjoying my country!

  • Postcard/s from France (Chalais Market) using Apocalypse Now 'Boom!' Flat 4 matrix Intra. This setting visually reminds me of using classic film stock. Voight 0.95 25mm.

    AN Boom! 1 Screen Shot 2012-09-08 at 11.22.24.png
    2560 x 1440 - 4M
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  • Well this is a fine how do you do....AN Cluster v7 GOP 6, 444 Soft DOES span in 24L mode. I recorded for about 40min and it made three files the 4 gb files were just under 13 min each. This was on the same 32gb Transcend Class 10 card that the DREWnet version failed to span on.

    Also, while I can't remember the exact times of the DREWnet clips, I think AN GOP6 recorded longer times on it's files.

    EDIT: Just checked my last post and DREWnet recorded just over 12min, vs just under 13min for AN Cluster V7 Soft, I recorded similar images but not the same exact framing so that could also account for data rate differences, but GOP6 was better for me than DREWnet version. I'm going to try and shoot a spec commercial tomorrow and I'll see how it holds up.


  • various apocalypse now settings used - boom for the stuff at the end , although its a heavily compressed mpeg4 version so tbh doesn't really show what its like.... when i get round to it il do a proper film and render it proper , u still get a flavour this way though...

  • HBR 30fps "Nebula 444 soft" for some reason im getting this strange jumpiness around the edges of the building and several other objects in the shot every sixth frame if someone explains to me how i can upload the original MTS file i will upload it.

  • I ran some more tests with the DREWnet/Soft version of the patch.

    One shot (at 24H) was a close up of a child splashing around in the pool. Doing some pixel peeping, I saw not one artifact, not one instance of macroblocking, despite the abundance of water droplets flying around at high speed. Every frame was pristine, artifact free and very film-like. This is sooooo much better than mere "AVCHD".

    I can also report no errors at any off-speeed; 80%, 200% and 300% all worked fine.

    Clips spanned just fine at 24H using a SanDisk Extreme 64 GB 95MB/s card. I tested this in full auto mode (P) in EX Tele, aimed at the children swimming, which afforded a lot of motion. There were no errors at all during recording. The spanned clips came into Premiere Pro CS6 without issue, and played back quite snappy without evidencing the 'spanned clips bug' so many others see in CS6.

  • An extreme test. As long as I was in the city I spent some time around the RIR raceway. Rough area and a lot of extremes in lighting and color.

    AN soft

    Samyang 7.5

    Samyang 85mm

    race1.png
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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
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    1920 x 1080 - 2M
  • @Jim_Simon The one caveat being "as long as it is doing full 8-bit". I have not looked at whether Vegas supports 256 color or B&W PNGs but those would obviously throw away information.

    But yes, thanks for emphasizing the point I was trying to make earlier: PNG 8-bit compression is lossless.

  • @cbrandin "In Vegas, the PNG files are compressed."

    In ALL programs, PNG files are compressed. But it's lossless compression, so no degradation or artifacts will be introduced by the PNG compression. They're quite acceptable for this purpose.

  • @bkmcwd The image quality on that sunset shot with power lines looks great. (The sample of "Valkyrie 444 TYPE-ZERO1") I will have to try this setting. Will test with both Lomo lenses and Panny 14-140. Thanks for all your work. You've got a really smooth image here - impressive stuff! How are you finding in-camera playback?

  • Thanks! Yep, back to topic.

  • We are getting offtopic here. You can use cinematools to alter fps, then use audacity for stretching the audio, then remux. Adobe sound products can do the same even better. However bootcamp or parallels would be easier in this case. Dunno about out of the box solutions for OSX. Ok.. back to topic!

  • @Meierhans It seems Virtualdub is Windows only. Do you know a mac alternative you could recommend?

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