Yep. you can not cheat physics.

What a pity...

It is not pity. It is called physics. :-)

Review on cameras site:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/8083837371/review-nokia-808-pureview

@Vitaliy_Kiselev

"Comparison is just horrible."

Let me disagree. When fully zoomed in in playback mode, it IS possible to reliably assess the sharpness of a camera, as one source pixel is rendered by one screen pixel, and with a sufficiently good, high-resolution camera, you can safely reproduce these screen pixels. (Incidentally, this is why I've "only" gone for sharpness tests and not for example dynamic range or vignetting, which would indeed have been impossible to correctly render on the screen of the phone).

After all, if a certain text shot from a certain distance with a certain FoV is readable on the screen of one camera (the 808), while absolutely unreadable (Nikon P300 comparisons from a bit more distance) or much-much worse (Pana ZS3 comparisons from a bit closer distance), it certainly gives you a lot of information on which of the two cameras are better.

BTW, I’ve been told the same at the DPReview forums. See my (similar) explanation and the resulting discussion in the “Nokia 808 Pureview – 41mp downsampling sensor” thread in the “Phone Cameras / Tablets & Apps Forum” forum there. (I don’t provide a direct link as I want my post to become visible ASAP.)

Finally, let me point out again that this was the only way of delivering ANY tangible and reproducible IQ report of the camera. The Nokia staff have strictly forbidden any kind of Bluetooth transfers - there simply wasn't any other (legal) way of getting those images off those 808's. All the other phone manufacturers let me transfer via BT from their new handsets (I've explicitly asked permission with all of them.)

wow, I'm amaze by this phone. Look at this video, in 1080p. The quality is amazing, the sharpness and details are better than on my GF2 ... And the zoom works very well. Only problem I see is camera shake.

@Vitaliy_Kiselev The only one I have seen.

Nokia PureView 808 high-ISO images; binned resolution tests; vs. Panasonic ZS3/TZ7: http://www.iphonelife.com/blog/87/mwc-report-iv-exclusive-nokia-pureview-808-high-iso-images-binned-resolution-tests-vs-panaso

@John_Farragut

I know. New camera tech will come to new win nokias. Do not know when. Maby some competitor make it faster. Lets see. BTW also sound is awsome in 808. Mic can handel eaven 140 db.

I am not fan of any brand or os. I use phone to call. But when looking shooting places i have found phones camera and gps werry handy.

@otcx No, video is also 24p, 25p.

http://europe.nokia.com/find-products/devices/nokia-808-pureview/specifications

So good for cinema ;-)

It's also about picture/video, but audio quality too. I'm very impressed, check the video found here: http://wmpoweruser.com/nokia-explains-rich-recording-the-new-audio-tech-in-smartphones/

Actually, I was surprised that even at full resolution, the images aren't terrible... http://cdn.conversations.nokia.com.s3.amazonaws.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/Archive2.zip

1/1.2 is actually quite a large sensor, even for compact cameras.

Downsampled to 5MP or whatever they should be great.

I like that you have the choice of keeping the full resolution file, for cropping/resizing later, even in phone.

Here's a whitepaper/marketing on the technology: http://europe.nokia.com/PRODUCT_METADATA_0/Products/Phones/8000-series/808/Nokia808PureView_Whitepaper.pdf

LOL:

"The phone says "41 Megapixels" on the back. Nokia EVP Jo Harlow said at its native resolution, it captures 38 megapixel images, that Nokia says are 7,152 by 5,368 resolution. When I looked at one of the images in the file manager, it was only 5.2MB." (good for a phone though - but not a camera)

This is NOT 41 or 38 megapixels of information.