Mindomo could be interesting generally for filmakers. Making a mindmap and brainstorming about a film idea or script for example, or a site/blog/business.

cool software,

Hi Vitaliy,

Being a kind of beginner myself when it comes to the pure technics (gop system, chrominance, stable/unstable bitrate, spanning or not, etc), I must admit I am kind of lost about identifying and understanding a type of setting: differences between the others, what clearly it does to the image, what situation it can help with (ex/ lowlight, exterior, for all situation in general) and others points (stable or not, spanning or not...).

Being a non english born speaking (i'm french), I have some difficulties to understand all the subtleties of these great settings (let's be clear, I"m not complaining here). A clear synthetic and summary document would be really appreciated. Something that could allow us to identify, understand, and choose the setting we want or need for a type of shooting.

So maybe I can help to make the document (excel doc or try mind mapping), but I won't have the skill to identify and sum-up all the settings with all their particularities and utility... Maybe it would be nice if all the Gh2 settings creator would make an "Identity card" of their own different settings. These identity cards would be all based on the same model (that would be decided by the creators themselves or by Vitaliy) and would add a brief summary of the images's results.

I'll add an attempt of model example for the mind-mapping GH2 Hacks List, done with iMindMap 5 Basic. Just trying to have and give ideas, hope it can help...

Regards

Yep, and such things could be very useful not only for beginners.
Sometimes small variations exist and they are hard to understand.

Greetings, just joined and donated as I am about to hack my GH2....

@jobilo
<... I must admit I am kind of lost about identifying and understanding a type of setting: differences between the others, what clearly it does to the image, what situation it can help with (ex/ lowlight, exterior, for all situation in general) and others points (stable or not, spanning or not...)>

I think this is a great idea, as I am in the same boat (had started a simple table to help me with the hacks and settings when I found this topic). I would like to help!

Seems like we ought to keep it simple- maybe an online, editable table or other format might work best? This way the programmers and users can update as desired/time allows. Does this seem okay, is it too simple, or is a mind map better? I don't mind digging into this, but some guidance to get me started would be marvelous.

Thanks to Vitaliy, driftwood, and ALL of you whose work makes this possible!

Hi everyone,

First, I'm glad that some people enjoy the little example of mind mapping I presented, based on the Vitaliy's idea, thanks!! This little example came from the Thinkbuzan iMindMap 5 Basic software. I've looked into the other mind mapping soft proposed by Vitaliy, Mindomo: actually it looks far better, with the possibility of viewing, sharing, editing online! http://www.mindomo.com/fr/help/sharing-mind-maps.htm

Here is 2 examples of mind map:

http://www.mindomo.com/fr/mindmap/relism-in-cinema-4cd4d74f8115476d995883d17a9f833a

http://www.mindomo.com/fr/mindmap/mindomo-tutorial-learn-by-doing-57885d9859e13b331edfdfac56e1b859

Looks very clear and interactive!!!!

@kjones Yeah I would like to try, but for sure not alone. As I said in my first post, I don't understand quite well the particularities of the different settings by myself. This is why I evocated the possibility of a unique model of an Identification Card for each hack setting. The unique model would be approved by the ones with the most important understanding of the hack settings: maybe the creator and Vitaliy.

Actually what I can do is to put in shape all these informations in a clear mind map, viewable on the net, and editable online by a few chosen people...

It would be based on the structure of the little example I proposed, but with a better integration of the text (description, ID card), of images (frame example...) personal-view appropriate topic links and video example links (youtube, Vimeo...) of the settings effects.

I think one of the key for this document is that it will have only one model, agreed by Vitaliy and those involved. One unique structure to follow, every ID card on the same model. So we have a better chance to have a very clear and understandable document, for every one, from beginners to professionals!! I'll try to propose something done on Mindomo.

@vitaliy What do you think about the propositions (mind map example, hacks ID cards...) and do you think the settings creators and yourself (Driftwood, Lpowell ...) would agree to create the model of ID card, and to propose then their different hack ID card??

Thanks to everyone

@kjones @vitaliy

Here is a quick example of a Mindomo mind map (first time using it for me): http://www.mindomo.com/view.htm?m=2e9d264b3e0849fe98ce98452239a785

Very clear, simple, interactive, and it seems to give powerful mind map. See the little notes, right to the subjects, as the personal-view forum and topic link. Just to see how it looks, I integrated vimeo, youtube videos and image link. Very good tool!!!

By the way we can change order in the mind map: now it's "TITLE:Gh2 hack settings list---------->Utility/Use--------->ID cards----->Results" So maybe it should be: "TITLE:Gh2 hack settings list---------->ID cards--------->Results---------->Utility/Use"

Edit:I finally changed the order in the mindmap.

So what do you think??

@vitaliy

Rightly, I don't really want too much informations, but I want the essential. The idea of"hack settings ID cards" is for gathering the essential technical data of all the different settings like for example: Cluster v2e (The ALL 6 GOP setting) Driftwood Mysteron Driftwood Quantum X (v4d Orion) 'Dark Matter' Matrix Pack + HBR FIX - CBR 'Settings' VY Canis Majoris GH2 Flow Motion v2.01 UPDATE Etc... So we keep only the last functional, updated versions of settings. About the topic categorization , for me (as I have a very low technical knowledge), when, for example, I read the Driftwood topics and all of his different variations of settings, I must admit I'm kind of lost... The ID cards would permit to identify the different hack settings and then visualize instantly the variations, according to a same unique model. And we could put a link to the right topics to go deeper.

For the "results" part, it would be more or less the same thing, we could do a result ID card according to chosen criteria. These criteria must be defined buy a bit more technical people, but something like (but I really don't know...): Chrominance, grain, things about frames, etc, etc... ???? Then maybe a brief aesthetical summary (3-5 phrases no more).

As for the utility/use part, the same that I wrote on the mind map.

But, at the end, I don't want to impose anything, but to propose... Thanks for the interests!!

Photo and video links are more of something optional, a technological bonus... :)

@vitaliy

Yeah it's true that with all the changes and updates some settings or part of theme will be obsolete... Can you show me your ideas? What classification and order would you put in the mind map?

Hmmm, the editor didn't put in my Hack 1, Settings A; Hack 2, SettingsB stuff under 1., 2., etc. Sorry, but my text description agrees with what I meant.

I have attached a PDF of an Excel document which is a mind map explaining FOUR new key documents that the GH2 video community needs.

This includes the technical style manual for patches (already alluded to!!) which I propose be called "Protocol for describing GH2 patches and their field useability" (see my diagram for the starting dot points of its contents).

The other docs we need are: (1) a monthly "HACK PROGRESS NEWSLETTER" to be posted by Vitaliy in its own stand-alone thread (2) a (MASSIVE!!) Excel table which correlates all stable patches and camera functions called "Overview of GH2 features and hack improvements" . Would need its own dedicated editor! (3) a re-written camera instruction manual ... purely from the videographer's field perspective.

My direct contact details are at the top of the PDF document. Hopefully real drafts and collaboration will emerge soon! I am a pretty good technical writer but would need to work with a good team on these frameworks.

[Note: I do not recommend using Mindomo software for this or any other mind-mapping project, because Kaspersky security software found it was trying to access the secure passwords section in my computer. Could be trojan war?]