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  • I don't think it could ever compete with the GH2 in video terms. However, as a photographers camera it could be a great one. I've got several very very nice weather sealed Olympus lenses (like the 50-200 f2.8-3.5) that don't AF very well on the GH2. No problem for video but it would be nice for stills (like wildlife and weddings) so I still use an Olympus DSLR. They are claiming that the OM-D, with the newly implemented AF, will work properly with their older 4/3 lenses. If this is really true it will be great for users of the older Olympus 4/3's camera. They are clearly aiming it at a very different market to the GH2. It's more of a 4/3 E-5 replacement. It still has the potential to be a great stills camera.

  • More consumer electronics I don't need to buy. Scratch Olympus off the list of cameras to learn and build workflow pipelines for.

  • ... and I belief that their typical target group (I guess hobby/vacation photo shooter, male, age 40-70) is so big that the video pros and enthusiast crowed is rather pointless to them. Nothing for to risk a support nightmare because the cheapest sd card isn't cutting it for them in video mode.

    to top the GH2, a camera would need all the GH2 merits (guess pixel binning makes it the winner) plus better dynamic range and color/gamma handling. Also the latest Nikons seem to fail with their down scale method and this will render all their well meant video ambitions useless ...

  • @danyyyel

    Things that you are asking for is impossible.

    They do not produce sensors and LSI. So, they did that they could.

  • That is why it is so dazzling. They have everything to gain and nothing too loose. At least Nikon is making a big effort. I am not too convinced about the image quality of the latest Nikon D4 and D800 (At least compared to the gh2) but in terms of features they are top notch.

    These guys could exploit a niche (ala gh2) but even higher because they don't have any video camera line to protect like Panasonic with the af-100. They are so clueless that it seems as if it cost them to put these things like higher bitrate, multiple frame-rate etc. I don't own any Olympus gear, but if this camera had true 1080p resolution without aliasing/moire (as gh2), 24/25/60 fps (even at avchd 2.0 bitrate), lower jello with higher readout sensor, flat cine-gama profile (or customizable picture profile like Canon and Nikon), 8 bit 422 or much better 10 bit clean hdmi output, I would be first in line to buy one. But for now, they look more like some stupid out of date brand, that does not even consider my attention.

  • Isn't Olympus in the same boat as Nikon? Not having a professional video camera division to cannibalize? Actually I don't know if they even have a consumer camcorder division. They really should go all out with the video features. I really do like it as photo camera, call me old fashion if you want but I love the styling and the quality finish

  • That's so disappointing of Olympus since the inception of the PEN. All only have 30fps. Olympus could have sold more camera's simply by adding more frame rates. But Olympus is really focussed on Japanese market. At least Panasonic gives European users 25fps or 24fps for their camera's, and America and Japan 30fps. Hopefully Pentax K-01 will have full manual video control. I think the Pentax will be a great allrounder.

  • Can't understand those type of companies. This is suppose to be a pro/enthusiast camera and they can't put something as simple as 24p. It is true that it is foremost a photo camera but we are in the world of the hybrid now (look at the latest high-end camera from Nikon). Video is becoming an important feature in a DSLR and the level of users who are supposed to buy this, will at least know or learn what is 24 frames per second or progressive output.

  • I wonder why we always must go back to old camera designs to have a "real" photographers camera? The E-M5 will appeal to memory lane dudes.

    For what it is, I like Pentax K-01. It will be a nice complement to my GH2. Waiting for the price to lower just a tad, and I will buy that.

  • I don't like it either. It is trying too hard to be a camera.

  • I don't know why, but I hate this camera. :-(

  • Adjusting tone curve on the fly. Nice.

    It seems like a nice photo camera.

  • no 24p is ok for me, but no 25p for PAL countries.... how i wish i could use it for my manual lens with IBIS on video....

  • Dpreview is reporting that the 720p is 60 FPS. However, they also report that the 1080 mode is 60 FPS. It is actually 1080i/60 so that is pretty worthless. This is a nice camera. However, it is not competition for the GH2 for video unfortunately.

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  • So so disappointing. I was really getting excited about the potential for the video (was hoping for at least 1080/24p and 1080/60p, plus a dream of 720/120p).

  • Looks like no 24P Bitrate looks low, as well. On the plus side, IBIS during video. Still, without 24p...

  • @mrbill : When I say weak points, I mean none of those you mentioned is a deal breaker for me. Now when you mention any of the competition there are lots of deal breakers.

    • Canon : Size, IQ, no EVF, limited codec.

    • Olympus: IQ, frame rates, modes, no EVF / tilt LCD, limited codec.

    • Sony: IQ, no lens system, limited codec.

    • Nikon: Oh, I'm sorry, shouldn't even be here.

    Don't get me wrong, the OM-D is looking good so far, even for video. If they manage to get video IQ similar to GH2 and adding on-board rolling shutter compensation this will be a pretty good camera at stock conditions especially if the AF comes close to the hype (well almost every other realistic expectation I had for the camera did come close).

    But, who are we fooling? I would say that half of the GH2 legionnaires fell for the GH2 IQ, the other half for "The Hack". I don't see that happening that easily on the OM-D. :(

  • @duartix 'The real strength of the GH2 in video lies in the fact that it has no weak points'

    You're joking? LCD gamma change? ISO bug? Banding? No focus assist with HDMI plugged in? I love my GH2 and it's relegated my canon to stills only use, but..

  • @kholi photorumors says 29 minutes recording. If it doesn't span, we gonna get 29 minutes of 1080p within 4 GB? That would be the typical 17MBit rate. What memory card will they use. Latest sd card generation?

    1080 30p h264 17MBit = no thanks!

    well lets see :-)

  • I actually like it :-) Hope it has an mic input. Soon we all know :-)

  • @Alex

    Someone on User reminded us that it also means no spanning. 4GB limitations. Me, personally, I need to be able to roll out 8 minutes at the very least, 10 being great, more than that = the sickness.

    Still looking forward to video samples, though.

  • 43rumors says no AVCHD but h264 in MOV. So they are not limited to AVCHD standard bit rates.