Panasonic GH6, final m43 camera, again with bad AF

Vitaliy_Kiselev

We perfectly saw this trend since GH3.

Note that lot of Panasonic camera related departments, especially management consume same amount of money as they did at the times of 10x more sales.

Manu4Vendetta

EspenB

DOA?

https://www.newsshooter.com/2022/02/22/panasonic-gh6-review/

The GH6 might appear to be a tough sell at $2,199 USD considering you can currently buy a full-frame S5 for $1,897.99 USD with a free 85mm prime lens. The Sony a7 IV is also only $399 USD more.

In my personal opinion, despite its capabilities, the GH6 needed to be priced closer to $1,500 USD to cause any type of market disruption. I know! It sounds ridiculous to be critiquing the price of a camera with the capabilities and features that the GH6. $2,199 USD is a relatively low amount of money to pay and while I think it is probably worth the money, the prices of full-frame mirrorless hybrids may say otherwise.

EspenB

MikeLinn

https://www.cameralabs.com/panasonic-lumix-gh6-review/

EspenB

@Eno

I think I have about 14 pcs of m43 lenses. Four are Oly lenses including the 7-14 mm f2.8 which sees a lot of use.

If continuing with m43 for photo the OM-1 seems like a better deal.

EspenB

DPreview says

The GH6's sensor, which we're told is 'not made by the company everyone always assumes we use'

In the real world there is no assumption about the use of Sony sensors.

Eno

Panasonic had literally one job to do: take the GH5 and implement a proper phase-detection system that seamlessly works with subject tracking, face/eyes and has no pulsing!

Unfortunately, they stubbornly insist on not providing the most requested feature (PDAF), and so this camera is uninteresting in 2022 IMO!

I didn't even complain about image quality, which by the way is more than one stop worst compared to the OM1:

GH6 ISO 12800: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/7519685592/panasonic-gh6-sample-gallery/4319631017

OM1 ISO 25.600: https://www.dpreview.com/sample-galleries/0739659306/om-system-om-1-sample-gallery/7844256296

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@EspenB

I have huge issues with this guys. As with proper enough light 98% of their audience won't be able to tell different between m43 and best FF. And it is almost all of their shots.

DrDave

Fan noise. Pulsing. Heavy. Chunky. Smaller screen.
Otherwise, fine.

EspenB

Potato Jet:

EspenB

Andyax (Norway):

AF is improved over GH5, but easily beaten by Sony.

EspenB

Tony:

But there’s a fatal flaw. The Panasonic Lumix GH6 uses the contrast-based Depth-from-Defocus (DFD) system… it often works flawlessly, in fact, for still interview subjects it outperformed Canon! With moving subjects, however, it either couldn’t keep up or it pulsed annoyingly.

EspenB

Gerald Undone:

This swan song of the micro four thirds system is a fine camera, but it struggles to compete with full frame image quality.

Still not a good camera for AF.

AF still looks bad.

m43 is dead to me.