Apple M1 COVID infected notebooks - Air 2020 ARM and Macbook Pro 13" ARM!

radikalfilm

The answer to these (valid) concerns is NextCloud (on your premises even), and treating the Mac like a knife, for video cutting only.

QNAP comes with an app/service called HybridCloud, I'll start exploring it as I have one of their entry level NAS.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@kellar42

It is all good thing, but notebook is not knife.

Apple from M1 started tightly controlling OS, App Store and note construction (repair) at new level.

And they did it for one reason - they'll milk you out and they won't stop. From selling all your logs, files, info, to pushing all developers inside App Store and getting same 30% cut as they do on mobile apps.

You need to understand that companies are not very dumb, so big shaft always come covered in tons of good smelling Vaseline, but you know its purpose, don't you?

For example, both Microsoft and Apple hire biggest amount of people to teams who will be developing systems that digg through your files in their clouds (nice term for this - textual and visual based AI). Analyzing stuff, figuring that is risky for company where you work or for ruling class in general, reporting all real progress to your boss (company will have special rate to buy info about you). It will also check all video files and photo files, all names of people (via faces) and content will be collected indefinitely, reported and sold.

Another thing I hear is that both companies already have AI that can check all major file formats and reject any encrypted files or archives. Idea is to finally get into bureaucracy dream land, where files are encrypted but they know the key (both Microsoft and Apple clouds already work such - both lack any private encryption).

Both clouds also have very interesting new strategies. Like I already heard that bank insisted on medium (around 150 people) US company to move into specific cloud in order to get new round of credit.

kellar42

I'm still confused at why blazing fast video editing capabilities for relatively cheap prices is such a bad thing?

jleo

App Can't Be Opened Because Apple Cannot Check It for Malicious Software

You can temporarily override your Mac security settings so as to run this software that hasn’t been signed and notarized

https://www.minicreo.com/mac-uninstaller/app-cannot-be-opened-on-macos-catalina.html

Vitaliy_Kiselev

$100 off already at CM, rumors are that discount will reach $200 around March time

Apple 13.3" MacBook Air M1 Chip with Retina Display, $899

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1604825-REG/apple_mgn63ll_a_13_3_macbook_air_with.html

APPLE MACBOOK PRO 13 WITH M1, $1199

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1604809-REG/apple_myd82ll_a_13_3_macbook_pro_with.html

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Bluetooth issues reports

In all M1 devices Apple made error with Bluetooth adapter power or overall design that resulted in power issues. Adapter has both sensitivity problem as well as very weak signal.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Vitaliy_Kiselev

"The new version of macOS 11 on Apple Silicon computers starting with the next beta version of macOS Big Sur 11, the operating system will require any executable file to be signed with a valid signature before being launched."

I hear new rumors that Apple reserved up to $50 billions for new huge marketing plan - they will pay up to $15000 per each youtube influences and up to $100k for each large channel or text blog. Main theme will be - how horrible is to install any applications from outside Apple Store. How dangerous it is. How each of such apps is full of viruses and if not viruses - authors are totalitarian morons who want to steal you toddler photos.

Information bombardment will continue for up to 6 months total, watch around - make sure to report each and every channel who do such thing for child pornography (as it is who they are - little presstitutes).

RKM

radikalfilm

@Vitaliy_Kiselev "(note that Pudget will only get economic benefit - but won't get right to sell Apple computers cheaper!)" You are finally making sense from a business standpoint. Apple will trade some of their profit margin in exchange for marketing services in the professional space, via a non-transparent, and frankly, shady deal. I won't ask how you know this, but I wouldn't be surprised if it were actually true.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@radikalfilm

It make lot of sense. Actually Intel and AMD (Nvidia also!) have special secret pricing terms for suppliers like Puget. But cut is not big (they can get up to 15% additional per top premium Quadro GPU and up to 20% per CPU compared to usual resellers/dealers ala NewEgg). Also terms do not cover many items, it is very restrictive lists.

Apple wants to reach new users and offering nice prices for such firms is very useful for them (note that Pudget will only get economic benefit - but won't get right to sell Apple computers cheaper!). Plus Puget will make them all necessary public benchmark figures, this alone costs up to $100 million USD (if you count reduction of marketing expanses). Apple spent many times of this only on arranging payments to all top bloggers, shipping free gear to smaller guys, pay to general influences and pay to ensure proper software testing during past weeks.

During first year marketing budget and benchmarks/games/software adaptation budget both will significantly exceed all expenses on development and even manufacturing M1 and all new notebooks.

During last Tim Cook years Apple operate similar to top Hollywood studios - marketing budget on the product can be comparable or even exceed production budget.

radikalfilm

@Vitaliy_Kiselev
"I just mean that for top desktops Apple will offer very nice cut to resellers, not that they will allow them to make too much customization. Both Intel Xeon and AMD Threadripper/Epyc CPUs have margins above 2000% and top CPUs can reach 6-8000% margins (multi-socked Xeons or 64 core multi socket Epyc). Apple can offer part of this margins and also other margins"

If you mean Puget as a reseller of Apple made systems, why would Apple undercut their own Apple store pricing? Your claim doesn't make sense no matter how I read it. I mean no offense.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@radikalfilm

I take this to mean that Puget is preparing a new version of their multithreaded benchmark to run on future Apple ARM products, like the ARM iMac and ARM Mac Pro. Right?

Apple will provide free people to create custom benchmarks settings, Purget mostly make special automated project for application to show advantage of new CPUs or GPUs (like adding 20-30 blur filters if it fits their goals ) :-)

I didn't checked them for a while, but some time ago it had been like 3 grading filters one after another, multiple blurs paired with selective sharpness and stabilization of perfectly stable smooth footage. Plus ton of another absolutely unrealistic crap added over all this.

One of the guys told me that they sold them super expensive workstations claiming 8K RED exclusive work, and company now makes 90% 1080p H264 videos and 10% 4K H264 videos for youtube, as big market for 8K work does exist only in Puget fantasies. In short - they overpaid around 3x for workstations and had been distracted by unreal claims. As in reality you need only few features, even in Resolve. If your CPU and GPU are good enough, your rendering speed for real life projects will be fine and upgrading to 3x more expensive stuff gets you 10-20% tops.

You seem to imply there is more to it. "Apple have special new partnership offers for companies like Purget (offering them amazing prices and terms unheard during Intel era)." Apple supplying Apple Silicon to 3rd parties, allowing them to create officially sanctioned Mac clones - this I cannot believe. This isn't the late 90's, and Apple is in a very different place wrt vertical integration.

I just mean that for top desktops Apple will offer very nice cut to resellers, not that they will allow them to make too much customization. Both Intel Xeon and AMD Threadripper/Epyc CPUs have margins above 2000% and top CPUs can reach 6-8000% margins (multi-socked Xeons or 64 core multi socket Epyc). Apple can offer part of this margins and also other margins (Apple SSDs margins are record int he industry, same is true for AMD GPUs they used).

radikalfilm

@Vitaliy_Kiselev wrt "Company is now preparing to new 16-64 core ARM systems from Apple" I take this to mean that Puget is preparing a new version of their multithreaded benchmark to run on future Apple ARM products, like the ARM iMac and ARM Mac Pro. Right?

You seem to imply there is more to it. "Apple have special new partnership offers for companies like Purget (offering them amazing prices and terms unheard during Intel era)." Apple supplying Apple Silicon to 3rd parties, allowing them to create officially sanctioned Mac clones - this I cannot believe. This isn't the late 90's, and Apple is in a very different place wrt vertical integration.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Apple top management not happy

Looking at the middle management tone and meetings themes - top managers are not happy with M1 launch. Apple called few big software companies and told them that they are not happy with speed on integrating provided M1 optimization code (this include Adobe!).

14" and 16" new MacBook Pro will be shifted at least 2-3 month further. Both models will have new maximally cheapened construction and rumors are that Apple will make another attempt to push tiny travel keyboard. Main focus will be on updated screens, reduced ports count (people talk that we can see first time model with ONE USB-C port) and also that 4 port models can have special activation fee where 2 ports will require $100 payment to activate Thunderbolt and display connection abilities.

Main LSI can be updated and named M1XT, it'll get new dynamic overclock mode that will work on AC power and will add around +20-25% performance, in contrast on DC power it will get special saving mode adding +15% to battery time. Present issue with M1XT is local thermal issues where performance cores can have temperatures above 120 degrees during short time turbo boost.

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

PugetBench by Purget System

Make sure to read notes at the end of post.

Puget are not authors of independent benchmarks as they try to position themselves, instead they are seller of new workstations that are only based on few recent expensive models of CPUs and GPUs, and they always adjust their benchmarks accordingly, to show new systems at their best, to maximize their profits, no matter that.

Company is now preparing to new 16-64 core ARM systems from Apple, and you will soon see their new version of benchmarks. Apple also is working with them. Rumors come that Apple have special new partnership offers for companies like Purget (offering them amazing prices and terms unheard during Intel era).

4CardsMan

When the smoke clears, we will see reviews from more critical sources. I appreciated moorhead's remark about going for an Intel machine if you use a variety of of software. Since I am primarily a user of Apple software (mainly FCP), the M1's are appealing. The only concern I would have would be Zoom, and I suspect there will be an ARM version out soon. None of the reviewers have evaluated performance using an external drive. I would like to see a review of playback performance with source material, such as an FCP library, on a fast external SSD, such as a Samsung T7.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

@miko

One thing I like about this review is proper use of term "Apple-chosen first reviewers".

As lot of people do not understand is that they are observing is largest and very coordinated product launch where few hundreds of people had been carefully chosen, instructed, checked. Lot of them are actually part of huge media companies who got special contracts from Apple for making proper reviews.

miko

https://www.forbes.com/sites/patrickmoorhead/2020/11/21/apple-macbook-pro-13-m1-reviewwhy-you-might-want-to-pass/?sh=7e49496f786a

MikeLinn

MikeLinn

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Parts

Apple M1 SoC (Main die + 2x Hynix 4GB LPDDR4X 4266 MHz modules)
Intel JHL8040R Thunderbolt 4 Retimer (x2) (basically a Thunderbolt 4 extender/repeater)
Western Digital SDRGJHI4 -- 128GB Flash storage (x2)
Apple 1096 & 1097 -- Likely PMICs
Texas Instruments CD3217B12 -- USB and Power delivery IC
Apple USI 339S00758 -- Wi-Fi 6/Bluetooth 5.0 Module
Winbond Q64JWUU10 -- 64 Mb serial flash memory
Renesas 501CR0B
Intersil 9240H1
National Semiconductor 4881A07
Siliconix 7655 -- 40A Battery MOSFET

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Boards of Pro and Air

Pro

Air

Heard astonishing rumor yesterday that M1 processor, already after packing, but before soldering DRAM chips, cost to Apple is below $29. It is silicon self cost after 1 million chips will be sold and will pay off for development costs (as it is cheap development, taking most of A14X design) and for masks cost.

Vitaliy_Kiselev

Windows on M1, it is like sex in a hammock.

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