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What do we know about the novel coronavirus?
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  • HCQ war continues, new big revealings coming

    Twitter locked the account of Donald Trump Jr. for approximately 12 hours, after the president's son posted a viral video of doctors touting Hydroxychloroquine to treat COVID-19.

    The press conference, which received over 14 million views before it was blacklisted and scrubbed by Facebook, Twitter and YouTube, featured members of America's Frontline Doctors - a recently formed advocacy group which claims that "American life has fallen casualty to a massive disinformation campaign" against Hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) - a decades-old malaria drug used by India and several other countries as part of their front-line treatment of the novel coronavirus, yet which has shown mixed efficacy in studies.

  • “I go along with the FDA,” said Fauci, the longtime director of the National Institute for Allergy and Infectious Diseases. “The overwhelming prevailing clinical trials that have looked at the efficacy of hydroxychloroquine have indicated that it is not effective in coronavirus disease.”

    This guys cancelled most trials using two faked papers (can check posts in this topic) :-)

    Fearing internet untruths about coronavirus cures or treatments could jeopardize lives, social media platforms like Facebook, Twitter and YouTube earlier this year began cracking down on dangerous misinformation about the coronavirus on their sites. Efforts Tuesday to remove the video from their platform prompted claims of censorship from those favoring hydroxychloroquine.

    This guys are good guys, don't make error, they want to help you. Sincerely. To go to nearest graveyard.

    Attack on personalities (selected and some lies also added)

    https://gizmodo.com/who-are-americas-frontline-doctors-the-pro-trump-pro-1844528900

  • True that antibodies do not last long, just a few months. Those vaccines that can induce, not just antibodies, but also CD4 helper and CD8 killer T cells will likely be better. T cells have memory effects so they stay longer around and also present cross-reactionary effects. It remains to be seen how Moderna fare in P3, but in P1/P2 Moderna appears to generate antibodies and weak T cells overall. Bio-N-Tech appears to induce much stronger T cells as well as antibodies. Oxford also induces T cells. Still any vaccine is a long way and we do not know yet if any works. That does not prevent pharma stocks to fly thru the roof and pharma execs from raking it in based on timely PRs for public consumption (desperate for any flotation devices)

  • @ghkqn

    I consider development of vaccines in private with total information shield and not sharing info between medical workers and labs in 2020 to be extreme crime for humanity. All of top pharma managers and investors must be presented to people public trial (one day tops) and after this executed.

  • WHO says Covid-19 pandemic is “one big wave”, not seasonal. It warned against complacency in the northern hemisphere summer since the infection does not share influenza’s tendency to follow seasons.

    It is clearly not fully true, enough to look for registered cases charts.

    But it is also clearly properly and specially designed to be unique and differ from flu and common coronaviruses. Most difference is organic to the part of the lungs it attacks and how easy it can attack undamaged (by cold weather) upper lungs regions.

  • Crossing my fingers. But less than 6% of vaccines pass P1/2/3. Currently about 20 vaccines on trials. we'll be lucky if any one of them passes P3. We'll be lucky if it's available to the public by next summer in 2021. We'll be lucky if majority of population have access to the vaccine in 2022. Yeah get those vaccines each year. We'll be lucky if we don't get hit by a whole new pandemic again before 2015.

  • Vaccine economics

    • Cost to manufacture in large amounts $0.2-$2 per dose
    • $30 per dose for US and EU citizens (Moderna)
    • $19.5 per dose for US and EU citizens (Pfizer, BioNTtech)
    • $3-4 per doze for EU citizens (AstraZeneca)

    This is wholesale cost of vaccine, not cost of actual procedure to you or insurance company.

  • $30 sounds right. That’s Windows OEM price in deep discount

  • @stonebat

    Cost for US insurance companies including injection and such will be around $250-500 per one dose.

  • Ruling class behaviour

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  • Lag in Florida

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  • Bad situation in US

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  • It is neither $20 nor $30 since this cost is per shot, and with the sole exception of the AD26 vaccine going thru P1, all vaccines (Moderna, Oxford, BioNTech) in P3 require 2 shots. Oxford/Astra Zeneca is the cheapest at this time, by a not so small margin. This COV2 virus will be with humans thru 2021 and likely much longer, even with vaccines. Outside of the measles vaccine, no other vaccine ever reaches 90% efficacy, it is usually much much less. Then you still have to subtract subsets of populations that either cannot get vaccines because of preexisting conditions, lack of insurance or those who just plain refuse to get any vaccine or who do not know vaccine exists. Factoring in both efficacy and deployment efficiency, there will still be a large set of non-vaccinated people in the end.

  • @ghkqn

    Prior to this day it is actually no working vaccines against any of coronaviruses.

    It is two issues with them:

    1. Very short working period 15-40 days max
    2. Frequently they have effect of worstening infection (in case of coronaviruses), I had post about this, it was mein reason of stopping making any vaccines against SARS.
  • US is in deflation despite record stimulus money

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    US is like roadster before the start, can go from little deflation to 50-70% a year inflation in pair of weeks.

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  • France’s economy contracted by 13.8% in the April-June quarter, mirroring similar devastation in Spain (18.5 %), Portugal (14.1%) and Italy (12.4%).

    Europe as a whole saw gross domestic product fall by 12.1% in the eurozone and by 11.9% across the EU bloc.

  • Early signs of second wave

    US deaths from the novel coronavirus rose by at least 1,453 on Friday, the biggest one-day increase since May 27, to reach a total of 153,882, according to Reuters.

    Cases rose by at least 66,986 to a total of 4.58 million with some local governments yet to report.

    The rise in deaths was the biggest one-day increase since fatalities rose by 1,484 on May 27.

    Wave is predicted to be staggering, destroying at least 70% of US small businesses, up to 30% of medium businesses, 60% of small food industry.

    Any issue with eviction moratorium or stop of indiivdual payments can make it 10x worse.

    Around 90% of wedding photo and video guys will be forced to go to other work.

  • The decision was announced by the Netherlands Minister for Medical Care Tamara van Ark following a review by the country's National Institute for Health. Following a resurgence in cases over the past week or so, the Dutch government has decided it will instead seek better adherence to social distancing rules.

    "Because from a medical perspective there is no proven effectiveness of masks, the Cabinet has decided that there will be no national obligation for wearing non-medical masks” Van Ark said.

    Very strange decision and strange formulations ala "non-medical masks".

    Netherlands has extremely strong local (and offshore also) capitalists who can't wait. And it is also very important for their huge bubbless in verious markets.

  • Vacciness and legal thingies

    "This is a unique situation where we as a company simply cannot take the risk if in ... four years the vaccine is showing side effects," said Ruud Dobber, a top exec at AstraZeneca.

    "In the contracts we have in place, we are asking for indemnification. For most countries, it is acceptable to take that risk on their shoulders because it is in their national interest," said Dobber, adding that Astra and regulators were making safety and tolerability a top priority.

    US Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has a law called the Public Readiness and Emergency Preparedness (PREP) Act, which provides immunity to vaccine companies if something goes wrong.

  • Now that Bolivia and Ecuador has gone public with real figures and data of using chlorine dioxide, I’ve seen results myself.

    So... is this a bad joke now? All this WHO ?

    You can cure with less than a dollar.

  • Lot of issues if you had been infected

    We found evidence of ongoing inflammation within the heart muscle, as well as of the heart’s lining in a considerable majority of patients (78 of a total of 100 patients). These findings are also known as myocarditis and pericarditis, respectively. The patients and ourselves and were both surprised by the intensity and prevalence of these findings, and that they were still very pronounced even though the original illness had by then been already a few weeks away.

    https://medicalresearch.com/heart-disease/mri-study-revealed-ongoing-cardiac-inflammation-in-patients-recovering-from-covid-19/54937/

  • The Bureau of Economic Analysis (BEA) estimated that Q2 Nominal GDP declined 34.3% annualized, the largest quarterly drop in our lifetime. Q2 GDP decline is nearly 5X times the previous record drop of 7.2% in Nominal GDP in Q4 2008.

    At the same time companies like Facebook, Apple and alike got hundreds of billions of free money from goverment and moved them into offshores. Same they did using hugely inflated stocks trading.

    You can literally see how enemies of the people are openly laughing looking at the problems of US citizens.