@endotoxic...hey amigo...I raised two kids in Mexico. How paranoid do you think I am ? Enough where I think paranoia is the highest survival mechanism we've got. I know inexplicable horrors happen on a daily basis. But these people above use their ill gotten gains from crime to govt and corporate corruption ...to the crowns purse. Queen resigning bs....she's got another good 20 years left in her.

Kurth do you remember the internet in 93-96.

Deep web is the same.

Difficult to navigate , difficult to obtain real data, abundant info you have to curate all is in disorder.

Spect strage stuff if you really begin searching for more than a year.

And a don’t even talk about sex.

ummm nevermind

https://nypost.com/2020/07/10/wayfair-product-listings-spark-child-trafficking-theory/ The ceo of warfair is director of the boston fed . He's a billionaire. Wayfair has been selling body sized storage cabinets named after missing girls for over 10grand each. They also sell other products such as pillows named after missing children for 10grand. But a 10grand storage cabinet ? Must have something else inside. https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=40&v=A-HlE73Qa9Y&feature=emb_logo ....a baby photo album for 11 grand and change.... https://i.redd.it/j8u7fwggg3a51.jpg ..... https://www.the-sun.com/news/1119851/wayfair-conspiracy-theories-child-trafficking-twitter-reddit/ ....right out in plain sight.

my point was that asserting as an absolute that the only thing that matters and that motivates human action is economics (and insulting anyone who suggests otherwise as being too stupid or uneducated to have their opinions considered) just smacks of ideological fanatisism.

All you actually want is to return (at best) to 16-18th century state of society science.

Hence i brought up two very simple and widely understood behaviors that are practiced universally and removed from any direct economic motivations: Religion and life insurance.

And note how you failed miserably on them.

I doubt the people implicated in the Epstein circus are thinking they're in trouble for making "love" to young girls out of pecuniary avarice.

All of this people knew perfectly all the possible issues, but such things is nice way to form tight interconnected people, so no one will go against each other as each of them have rope.

This is why it is zero interest thing, as it is many other similar stuff used to control politicians.

@kurth

And btw....religion in Mordor didn't "vanish into non existence" ...it simply went underground to avoid the persecution.

Issue is that you know very bad this topic and I know it very good as in recent years read a lot on it and talked to many people. Plus personally knew things in 80s.

Appears that ghislaine might have been a powerful insider reddit charter member posting top posts at r/worldnews. Sounds right up mossads alley.

so does anyone really think obama spent 65grand on hotdogs ..... https://wikileaks.org/gifiles/docs/12/1223066_re-get-ready-for-chicago-hot-dog-friday-.html .....yeop...it's pretty obvious they're all doing it.

@kurth

Well, I know it is true, as I personally observed it, as well as extreme resurgence because ruling class needs it now.

some associated economics..... https://www.wsj.com/articles/deutsche-bank-fined-150-million-over-epstein-links-other-lapses-11594132041

Which is of zero economic advantage for the person paying the insurance. Same with fucking hot young women/girls.

And? You mean that person must live like Agafya Lykova in Taiga without any family and without participating in the complex social production?

Adding here "fucking hot young women/girls" has only one purpose - to try to use profanity language to hide from readers how you fucked with insurance thing :-)

But please, continue to enlighten us with your supreme, non-barbaric intellect.

My intellect is below average, but I try to read stuff and talk to smart people. And as I return and see some members being on same or even lower level they had been years ago - it makes me sad.

@spacewig

Well, in capitalism I see personally, they buy it because it makes life of their family simpler, in economics terms, in case of issue.

If you want to add here some barbarian reasoning stuff - don't do this, save readers time.