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Coronavirus: It is China to blame for all and everything
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  • kurthkurth

    here it is..... https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/china-asked-who-delay-pandemic-announcement-deny-human-human-transmission-german ...." Even after China’s most famous pulmonologist, Zhong Nanshan, confirmed human-to-human transmission on January 20, the WHO continued to undermine effective responses by downplaying the risks of asymptomatic transmission and discouraging widespread testing. "

  • kurthkurth

    https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/11565077/fears-coronavirus-europe-october-french-athletes-military-games-wuhan/ ..... "We were recently in touch with a military doctor who told us: 'I think you had it because a lot of people from this delegation were ill.'"

  • kurthkurth

    ""The report — obtained by the London-based NBC News Verification Unit — says there was no cellphone activity in a high-security portion of the Wuhan Institute of Virology from Oct. 7 through Oct. 24, 2019, and that there may have been a "hazardous event" sometime between Oct. 6 and Oct. 11."" ..... https://news.yahoo.com/report-says-cellphone-data-suggests-001233644.html

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    where have you been for the last 75 years ? The usa always has behaved this way....as well as russia and china.

    You just could not resist to add stuff :-)

    US now is main stand of calitalism and around 75% of all its armed forces.

    Hence the destruction of ruling class in US is core thing required to move forward.

    Venezuela is in heaven compared to syria

    For now it is, but US want it to look more like Iraq. :-)

    If it's such a good example of govt, why are all the leaders kids rich ?

    It is not much good example, but if you compare it to US friendly ones - it is much better for normal people.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....where have you been for the last 75 years ? The usa always has behaved this way....as well as russia and china. They use the security vote veto to their own advantages. War is good business. Nothing's changed. But how does what happened in venezuela compare to releasing a virus that has killed almost 300,000 so far ? Venezuela is in heaven compared to syria, and syria is doing well compared to yemen. 8 stupid mercenaries died in Venezuela. And truthfully , venezuelan govt is fuxed , and have been since chavez died. If it's such a good example of govt, why are all the leaders kids rich ? And look around the neighborhood. Every country in latin america is bad off. They all have bad govt's...except for mexico, and it's struggling. And what about iran ? No one in the west cares about helping a muslim country.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The United States on Friday stunned other members of the UN Security Council by preventing a vote on a resolution for a ceasefire in various conflicts around the world to help troubled nations better fight the coronavirus pandemic, diplomats said.

    Need to demand deep investigation of US stunt and other similar actions, including terrorist activity in Venezuela.

    Or it is also Chinese intelligence moles doing all this in US?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    It is same chance you will with millions as winning lottery (for normal working people). It happens but never count on it. But having police representing always interests of opposing class is never nice.

  • kurthkurth

    @jleo....it's all western media lol.... except chinese propaganda...and don't make stupid assumptions about where I get information..... https://www.businessinsider.in/international/news/china-is-reportedly-silencing-coronavirus-survivors-who-want-answers-on-what-went-wrong-with-the-countrys-early-coronavirus-response/articleshow/75548335.cms ...and don't assume I'm going to spend the evening googling chinese, but I'm certain chinese citizens never walk away from juried courts with millions of dollars of the govt money. Obviously you've got a pinched nerve. It will get even more interesting when we know for sure the virus is artificial.

  • jleojleo

    People in China sue their govt everyday and yes, often the courts rule against the govt. If your information about China comes from the Western media, or Epoch Times, you will know nothing about China. Just feeding your super-villian fantasies! Use google translate.

    http://wenshu.court.gov.cn/website/wenshu/181217BMTKHNT2W0/index.html?s8=05

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....the difference in pov is that some people in the world come from places that suing their govt's is impossibly dangerous. I just read an article where some chinese were going to sue their gov, and the gov told the lawyers the consequences. Case closed. In the states, wrongful death suits against the police are won every year costing taxpayers millions. Doesn't help the victim however, but families of the dead keep winning them. Where ever that happens, and the chinese have resources, people will be suing. Lots of properties will be embargoed on behalf of the plaintiffs. You try to look at some big abstract picture. I'm looking at ground level.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    They just had too much open lessons of US or UK behaviour to behave any different.

    Bully won't stop anyway, so why deal with him like he is sane man?

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....obviously there because that's where the virus began. Short memory ? And they're acting like psychopath who everyone knows is guilty but they can smile while denying the obvious.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    ccp should allow full open investigation into corona origin.

    Why they should do it and not US and UK first?

    They're acting like they're guilty.

    No, they are acting like normal man usually responds to old time bully. Bully is now old, sick and completely deranged.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....ccp should allow full open investigation into corona origin. Why are they covering up ? Now we only have their lead scientist betting her life the virus didn't escape wuhan lab. Is that scientific investigation ? It's not about words...it's about deeds. They're acting like they're guilty. And obviously it's not just the US.....if you're driving your car , and your driving it the best you can possibly drive it, but some little error occurs, and tragically you cause an accident. You're still guilty of damages.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The Chinese people should avoid being easily irritated by US provocations, and we must have patience to strategically maneuver with the US. The US is the one that is distressed. China should respond to US provocations in a rational, powerful and restrained manner, which will best manifest China's confidence.

    Good words :-)

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy....it won't be "US right wing guys" ...it'll be a class action made by normal citizens.

  • kurthkurth

    @jleo......it's falun gong madsen is pointing his finger at....and yeah, he does more than just quote.....if you read...."In a couple of recent articles in The Epoch Times, Falun Gong appears to be taking credit for launching Covid-19"....."If Covid-19 has a non-natural origin, such statements place Falun Gong squarely as a major suspect in unleashing and propagating the virus. " And just for political sake....when corporate interests are controlled by a state....that's fascism, not capitalism. Sadly the west is only a small step behind china.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    Supporting US right wing guys who try to sue China is quite stupid thing to do for any ordinary citizen, as only thing they actually want is to lower life of US people further.

  • kurthkurth

    @jleo...they don't have to sue in international courts, they can use domestic courts and make claims on domestic chinese properties.

  • jleojleo

  • jleojleo

    Madsen doesn't say the epoch times released it, just quoting their bs claim. However the article shows their over the top obsession with anti-communism. Like most china bashers, who claim to have the inside scoop on what's happening in China, they are so clueless they haven't figured out that for the last 3 to 4 decades, China is just as capitalist, if not more, than the USA! :)

  • kurthkurth

    @jleo.....The Madsen article is hilarious...if you've followed the writings and career of wayne madsen. After all, his book on obama detailed obama's gay bath house life style and penchant for older white guys ! That was after his famous 3 part article on obama's cia family history. In this article, he never mentions accidental lab release whatsoever. Don't get me wrong....he's ex nsa turned conspiracy theorist. His article on mossad running atta's hamburg terror cell was fundamental. Yet he never gets around to how falun gong actually acquired a bsl-4 level virus, and why they think it only affects ccp. The only thing I find, and have always found to be suspicious is early statements by trump saying the virus could benefit the USa. Well, he certainly screwed the pooch there. It's just absurd to believe some dude, who thinks he can walk thru walls, when he claims posteriorly to have been the viruses source.

  • jleojleo

    Army of The Twelve Monkeys claims credit:

    In a couple of recent articles in The Epoch Times, Falun Gong appears to be taking credit for launching Covid-19, which runs counter to the anti-Beijing propaganda emanating from Pompeo, White House trade official Peter Navarro, and leading congressional Republicans. On March 11 and April 26, 2020, The Epoch Times ran two editorials suggesting that Covid-19 was not a virus caused by the Chinese government, but one intended to destroy the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and its international supporters. The articles states:

    “The spreading of the virus shows a clear pattern, which is, it is selectively targeting the CCP and is aimed at eliminating the CCP and those who are pro-communist or who have close ties with the CCP. All regions that are hard-hit by the virus outside China are those having intimate ties with the CCP, those who have supported the CCP in terms of trade, investment, or helping the CCP improve its international image. Likewise, individuals who have been the CCP’s supporters often find themselves vulnerable to the CCP virus.” The article suggests that New York City became a hot zone for the virus because of its financial links to the Chinese government and the presence of the United Nations and Wall Street, the latter accused of being a “behind the curtains financier helping the Chinese Communist regime prolong its life.”

    The Falun Gong articles also contain a stark warning for New York City: “the priority is to start cleansing the CCP infiltration from New York.” Does “cleansing” include carrying out a mass casualty event by a cult that also targeted Wall Street, including three targets — MSCI (Morgan Stanley Capital International), FTSE Russell, Bloomberg Index — and JP Morgan, the United Nations headquarters, and New York City’s “economy, finance, commerce, media, culture, education, [and] Chinese-American community?”

    https://www.strategic-culture.org/news/2020/05/04/cults-and-bioterrorism-toxic-duo/

    Another cult link:

    Followers of the doomsday church that is linked to South Korea's coronavirus outbreak were meeting in Wuhan until December

    https://www.businessinsider.com/church-cult-south-korea-coronavirus-outbreak-meetings-wuhan-december-2020-2

  • jleojleo

    Professor Jay Rosen, NYU

    The plan is to have no plan, to let daily deaths between one and three thousand become a normal thing, and then to create massive confusion about who is responsible— by telling the governors they’re in charge without doing what only the federal government can do, by fighting with the press when it shows up to be briefed, by fixing blame for the virus on China or some other foreign element, and by “flooding the zone with shit,” Steve Bannon’s phrase for overwhelming the system with disinformation, distraction, and denial, which boosts what economists call “search costs” for reliable intelligence.

    Stated another way, the plan is to default on public problem solving, and then prevent the public from understanding the consequences of that default. To succeed this will require one of the biggest propaganda and freedom of information fights in U.S. history, the execution of which will, I think, consume the president’s re-election campaign. So much has already been made public that the standard script for a White House cover up (worse than the crime…) won’t apply. Instead, everything will ride on the manufacture of confusion. The press won’t be able to “expose” the plot because it will all happen in stark daylight. The facts will be known, and simultaneously they will be inconceivable.

    https://pressthink.org/2020/05/the-plan-is-to-have-no-plan/

  • spacewigspacewig

    I suspect many feel the same about the Skripals, Salisbury and Porton Down...

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