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  • RoadsidePicnicRoadsidePicnic

    Yup some provinces here had strong social democratic and a little socialist push after the ditadura ended. Universities and such places designed a lot of systems and implemented somethings themselves, the school-pharmacies was one of them. It's probable they modeled it after USSR or Cuba, its interesting topic as they already existed when I was a child, but the university had this kind of background. There's only a handful of them and today they are in severe hardship to continue operating.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...that's why I said generics are risky enough.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    They are, but they are also making top price limit for big pharma.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy ...what's happening in Mexico and maybe the world shows many people, not just big pharma, are scumbags. Speculators buying everything in sight. I mean, this shit is relatively dangerous. You want to take as little as possible.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    Everything is dangerous. Idea to recommend Paracetamol instead of Aspirin (started many years ago!) caused much more deaths (not instant, but due to illnesses caused by damage of liver) than even most horrible Coronavirus estimate is. And almost none of the medical staff asked any questions.

  • kurthkurth

    @Vitaliy...luckily I don't need any meds and take about 3 aspirins a year. But I've had some eye problems this last year, and eyes I can't live w/o, so that's why I'm cautious about chloroquine. My goal is 95, just like Rockefeller, and I don't want one of his biological weapons getting in the way. Anyway....news on the pharmacy front. Apparently when hydrochloroquine resets, it will require a script. No problem with that in Mexico. Just 3 dollars..no, now 2 dollars, no peso keeps dropping....$1.50 to see a doctor !

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @kurth

    It is famous quote here

    The strictness of Russian laws is mitigated by the non-binding nature of their implementation.

    So, formally you need prescription (our government had been afraid to enforce it for around 26 years), in reality they try to make it work only using threats and still works bad.

    I believe idea to treat people as stupid is bad. We need to give them chance to kill themselves. US is selling guns and most medicine is much les fatal.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Amazon Care, the division providing healthcare to company staff, is partnering with the Gates Foundation-backed Seattle Coronavirus Assessment Network to deliver and pick up at-home COVID-19 testing kits as part of a trial.

    And here is slow appearance of real actors.

    Issue with tests as I wrote above is that this guys can keep panic at required level just by changing primer in the tests. So it'll detect any common virus causing similar symptoms. And you can't blame them as they can always tell that it is experimental test and you got false positive due to sample contamination :-)

  • jleojleo

    Bill Gates will use microchip implants to fight coronavirus

    The ‘digital certificates’ Gates was referring to are human-implantable ‘QUANTUM-DOT TATTOOS’ that researchers at MIT and Rice University are working on as a way to hold vaccination records. It was last year in December when scientists from the two universities revealed that they were working on these quantum-dot tattoos after Bill Gates approached them about solving the problem of identifying those who have not been vaccinated.

    The quantum-dot tattoos involve applying dissolvable sugar-based microneedles that contain a vaccine and fluorescent copper-based ‘quantum dots’ embedded inside biocompatible, micron-scale capsules. After the microneedes dissolve under the skin, they leave the encapsulated quantum dots whose patterns can be read to identify the vaccine that was administered.

    The quantum-dot tattoos will likely be supplemented with Bill Gates’ other undertaking called ID2020, which is an ambitious project by Microsoft to solve the problem of over 1 billion people who live without an officially recognized identity. ID2020 is solving this through digital identity. Currently, the most feasible way of implementing digital identity is either through smartphones or RFID microchip implants. The latter will be Gates’s likely approach not only because of feasibility and sustainability, but also because for over 6 years, the Gates Foundation has been funding another project that incorporates human-implantable microchip implants. This project, also spearheaded by MIT, is a birth control microchip implant that will allow women to control contraceptive hormones in their bodies.

    https://biohackinfo.com/news-bill-gates-id2020-vaccine-implant-covid-19-digital-certificates/?fbclid=IwAR1Ss0MSAKAvGCpd8sj_-s_Qfh6KIN8962OR3IiYOGUT_0-OfJ7efW3NAmw

    Liberalism is the handmaiden to fascism. Theodor Adorno

    "There is no greater humanitarian force on the planet than the United States military... it's really time to give the military the full breadth, command and control of this operation."
    • Actor and activist Sean Penn on battling coronavirus

    https://twitter.com/AC360/status/1240826557154963456?fbclid=IwAR3FGNUh3g7uuj0K7EM7uZzWczMsovlG4W5Ak5znvrthGjT5D3F5HPhe4FY

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Bill Gates approached them about solving the problem of identifying those who have not been vaccinated.

    This sounds bad. As we can have here second part of big plan.

    It can be all not random that last 10-12 months we had real witch hunt against anti vaccine groups.

  • jleojleo

    to be fair to Sean Penn, China's response was also a military response... :)

    Marco Maddalena: CORONAVIRUS DID NOT BEGIN IN WUHAN WET MARKET.

    The scientific data says it began elsewhere. Or so says Georgetown University infectious disease specialists with PHD’s in microbiology. Georgetown University is one of the most premier Universities in all of the United States. Georgetown University is also, without doubt, the single best US Intelligence agency connected university in all of the United States. More so than even Harvard or Yale. Anybody who continues with the mainstream news cover story narrative that the coronavirus began in the Wuhan wet-market has absolutely no evidence upon which to base that claim, except that’s what the rotten talking heads on their televisions told them.

    FACT: Before deploying biological weapons in a covert attack against an adversary or primary competitor. There must first be in place a COVER STORY or narrative for how it occurred. Narrative preparation must already be in place before the deployment of the biological agent, a bogus narrative that seeks to provide a plausible explanation for the appearance of a new infectious disease outbreak.

    ITS CALLED “PLAUSIBLE DENIABILITY”. Have you noticed for the past 4 years the US mainstream media (CIA) subsidiaries, and other online anti China hostile media increasing reports that focus on Chinese food safety and exaggerating stories of poor hygiene standards there? I have. We have. Nothing escapes our Eagle eyes. All narrative preparations for the USE OF BIOLOGICAL WEAPONS AGAINST CHINA were identified long ago.

    FACT , The Chinese military mobilised in lightning speed to Wuhan to deal with a biological weapons threat to the Chinese state. The Chinese military does not mobilise massive resources at lightning speed for simple and unknown pathogen outbreaks, with mild flu like symptoms during a flu season.

    THEY WERE READY. ON ALERT. WILL THOSE COUNTRIES WHO LAUNCHED THE ATTACK, AND THE MINIONS WHO COVERED FOR IT WITH THEIR MASS MEDIA BE READY? ||

    https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virus-spreading-globally?fbclid=IwAR1xa7GHtwF8g5zObwqB_YAhsfy5ypurI9TOi9NfhgI93OENTFF74fBG9Yg

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @jleo

    Well, such press from both sides just means that economical conflict is not random and has fundamental interests behind it.

  • markr041markr041

    Morning Rush Hour in Grand Central Terminal During Lockdown

  • kurthkurth

    maybe el chapo can send sean penn a message. Oh yeah, I came around to tell everybody that great info post from reddit/coronavirusFOS was deleted. Don't the chinese own reddit ?

  • flashflash

    @vitaly, how much COVID-19 cases in your country ?

  • kurthkurth

    ...USa going down fast .... https://apnews.com/65163e344a4725c823c34be60a2da1ce

  • kurthkurth

    the "fatal chloroquine " propaganda starts. They took chloroquine for fish ! https://news.trust.org/item/20200323225613-cmq3v

  • sammysammy

    My parents own a small restaurant here in california, more likely in couple more days they are almost forced to shut down, as it makes more sense keeping place closed than paying to keep whatever few employees that still want to work ,as bussines has dipped to almost nothing. It's a big issue here localy,many small bussines like parents will more likely have to make the same decion . No one knows what to expect ,as no real solutions have been put other than you wont be evicted if you dont pay rent .Big chain places have drive thru ,and they still at an ok spot (people using that to get food), but many small ones dont and will have to shut it down soon .

  • tidatida

    Coming back to the discussion of hypochlorite based desinfactant for masks. You have to be aware that it might give trouble with skin. Paper surface will be strongly chlorinated and some molecular fragments will penetrate your skin. An other alternative would be Hydrogen Peroxide if you can get it. There are also bathroom cleaners based on that.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Mordor news - masks production is expected to reach 5 millions per day (requirement is close to 450-500 millions), but only in April, and up to 80% will be horrible non standard masks. Proper good masks with filters will be below 3%. Most of present production (and may be reported above also) is fake, as they stopped "producing" masks and wait next batch from China that must go in soon.

    Another interesting observation - none of the companies or countries made tests on antibodies so you can tell that someone already had coronavirus and has immunity. If capitalists actually wanted to make economy work (as they say) this must be top priority, but it is not.

    @flash

    I suggest to check official stats, just note that most governments strictly control tests to make necessary panic unfolding speed.

    My present understanding of probabilities

    • 0,1% - it is just random virus that jumped to humans on animal market
    • 4% - it is accident in Wuhan lab
    • 6% - it is US trying to make it look like accident or virus jump
    • 89% - it is coordinated release of genetically constructed virus by at least 15 leading states, each of the state has proper volumes of virus inside domestic borders in case distribution won't keep with plan. All states engineer special tests (most of them are made in labs related to bio weapons developments or owned by largest corporate actors) to keep panic at designed levels, but not more.
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @tida

    My understanding is that UV is best for disinfection, and even usual sun will do quite well.

  • tidatida

    @Vitaly

    UV radiation is only good to clean surface. You need something which goes into the pores. Also UV radiation makes only sense if it goes through air directly to the surface. In water it's effective on short distance as it absorbs very strong. Furthermore you need the correct wavelength where you break linkage of molecular bonds to be most effective.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @tida

    Usual masks are very reflective. So, UV is good, do not worry.

    Get proper UV lamp and all will be ok.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Mordor news.

    Central bank officially today requested banks to limit cash operations and possible stop any ATM machines that can be used to get cash from people.

    Under pretense of virus.

    Rumors are that we can see full cash ban in banks within next 2 weeks.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    20% of all population across the world is under lockdowns, this number will reach 50% within 2 weeks.

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