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Panasonic GH5S GH5 S, 4K Video Edition
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  • The image is sharper in Gh5S, from what I've seen. Multiple tests show a darker image on Gh5S, also it generates more contrasty scenes on lowlight, there is also a yellow tint on it, that clearly can't be taken away that easily. Can this be a direct influence of the different bayern pattern on the sensor?.... Maybe not. The slowmotion has little moire but for 240fps don't even care. Looks grate.

    This camera is a very much mature video camera in almost all aspects. I don't miss ibis. I think it's nice, but you have accessories for it, so... It's OK. Not a dealer breaker. Whatever it takes to make a low noise high speed sensor.

    About dynamic range I'm a little bit disappointed. The potential of making real HDR from sensor was massive. I think 12 stops would be sufficient not to compete with Eva1 and offer current gh5 buyers a not hate us credential to Panasonic's favor.

    Its a little stupid not to use sensor true potential, but I think firmware for this use was clearly different from Panasonic perspective. I still believe much can be done with this sensor, but they won't do it. Please don't think I'm bragging about it. For me it's ok.

    I think Gh6S will use 14 stop sensor.

  • hmm, I dont care. even if it doesnt have ibis, I got a ronin so im covered there. the 10mp is what I want to see side by side with the gh5 20mp stills.

  • @jclmedia

    Adorama also like to save on staff, hence they copy specs and forget to change some.

  • So correct me if im wrong but it does have 5 axis Stab.? and 21mp stills mode?

    https://www.adorama.com/ipcdcgh5s.html

    Thats what adorama is stating.

    Key Features:

    10.2MP high-sensitivity MOS sensor with multi-aspect and dual native ISOUnlimited in-camera recording of C4K4K Anamorphic professional video productionDual SD Card slots (UHS-II U3 CompatibleMicro Four Thirds Format10 MP, 21 MP4KBuilt-In Viewfinder5-Axis OpticalWi-Fi: YesBluetoothBody Only

  • After this image analysis, i have a conclusion.

    The way the dual native ISO is implemented in this sensor, is intrinsically different from the Panasonic sensors. As i said before, they are using the native HDR implementation to make this fake dual native ISO. So the way they have implemented this, affects the dynamic range of the camera. You can see on the images the GH5 manages to implement better the DR from lower ISO, this means that you loose DR on GH5S on low ISO, and it begins to show its true potential on high ISO. More like what the Starvis sensor was make for.

    I think we have a case here of bad handling of the luma information, via a bad implementation of the HDR circuity to make the DUAL ISO feature. This can be fixed via firmware.

    Its the only thing i have noticed about this camera, and the highlights roll-offs are bad also.

    Its a pity that the dynamic range was not incremented, cos this sensor has the capability of 14 stops.

    Gh5 more solid iso management until 1600, Gh5s low light 4/3's beast. Bad in Low iso.

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  • To my knowledge Panasonic engineering has never said that its better DR, simply much cleaner. And 400/1250/2500 are very impressive. 3200 and even 6400 pretty well useable.

    Words like "impressive" and "usable" are very similar to "analytical" and "slightly veiled".

    So, what is the definition of DR in Panasonic sandbox?

  • To my knowledge Panasonic engineering has never said that its better DR, simply much cleaner. And 400/1250/2500 are very impressive. 3200 and even 6400 pretty well useable.

  • Incredible and clean performance in low light.

    Now I need sale my A6500, my GX8 and a kidney.

  • hahahah vk that's too funny :)

  • Maybe there will be a "DRS" version in 2020. DRS = dynamic range +sensitivity, using the dual iso for better low light and also to improve dynamic range to get 14 fstops.

    Actually I asked Nick about their definition of DR.

    One thing I like less and less is Panasonic marketing machine who takes you for imbecile.

  • In 2020 we would see the GH6, not another GH5 iteration.

  • Maybe there will be a "DRS" version in 2020. DRS = dynamic range +sensitivity, using the dual iso for better low light and also to improve dynamic range to get 14 fstops.

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    Marketing finally produced something about Dual ISO, looks fake.

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  • GH5s photo ISO test: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA7.HTM

    GH5s video tests and comparisons: http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh5s/panasonic-gh5sA.HTM#shooting1

    "At both 12,800 and 25,600, the GH5S looks slightly better than the A7S II at the same ISOs, which is both unexpected and subjectively highly impressive for a camera featuring a sensor that is a fraction the size of the other.

    A sensor significantly smaller than the full-frame A7S II is beating that camera in low-light performance. I never thought I would see the day. With these test results, it's hard to argue that the GH5S is not the new king of low light."

  • I don't see how wireless TC transmission is linked into this.

    Neither do I think this is linked to Zaxcom, as the main issue people usually have with them is blocking simultaneously recording and wireless audio transmission (i.e. a bodypack that is both a recorder and a transmitter!).

    Let's continue to this talk later, ok? As it seems you think about different things here.

  • No IBIS is a dealbreaker. Lowlight looks great though.

  • GH5s High ISO Test - Compared to the A7s II, EVA1 & GH5:

  • Its a massive thanks to this group and a few other call outs that we got Multi Aspect sensor back :-)

    Yay!

    Do not rush, look at the talk above.

    Could you link or quote exactly what you're referring to?

    Talk was about timecode, it is much simpler and cheaper now to add wireless TC transmission. But due to Zaxcom restrictions you can't do it.

    I don't see how wireless TC transmission is linked into this.

    Neither do I think this is linked to Zaxcom, as the main issue people usually have with them is blocking simultaneously recording and wireless audio transmission (i.e. a bodypack that is both a recorder and a transmitter!).

  • @Ironfilm no one said GH5S has wireless T/C. Can't speak for Vitaliy, but many of us who field large arrays and move them around want wireless, and the industry has been slow to offer reliable solutions, partly because of patent hassles (but also they don't want the competition or even to offer something cheaper).

  • Good mini-review in typical extrashot style: