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It's Official: Firmware Update for DMC-GH2 / G3 / GF3 / GF2 coming
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  • @DLG
    You can find Ptoool used to hack an official fimware here:
    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/1375/ptool-v3.63d-topic/p1

    as well as references to what you need and instructions.
  • @DLG
    You can find good ini files for different types of patches here:
    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/953/gh2-patch-vault-most-popular-patches-in-one-place/p1

    Read about the differpatches and look for something for your needs.

    I myself is using @cbrandin 44/32 patch. You can find it in this package:
    http://www.personal-view.com/talks/discussion/comment/21678#Comment_21678
  • Maybe Santa Claus is a true and bring us 25p
  • @OTCX

    Maybe Santa will bring 1080p @ 50 FPS instead? Funny thing is that people would still complain that it is not 25p. You can never make every happy. Therefore, they should just make the people who spend the most money happy.
  • @ arvidtp and Tomaso,
    Meanwhile, thanks, I had not noticed 3.63d. Vitaliy, you're such a great man.

    I'm sorry, I explained badly, for my terrible English.
    I try again, my curiosity was referring to the new firmware panasonic annunced... I was wondering if Vitaliy and all of you have to start all over again to be able to improve it?

    salùt!
  • @mpgxsvcd
    1080 @ 50 fps is not bad. But for all of us that would be able to produce for broadcast on TV in Europe 25P 1080 or 720 is kind of a must.Well 24p can be transormed to 25p but.....
  • 50p is worse than 25p, considering storage.
  • @Tomaso
    1080p50 would be better, and you can always skipframe and have a perfect 25p. And if you can have 50p is much more simple to vitaliy to hack the 25p
  • Why would they be so unspecific about the GH2 firmware for 24mb other than the fact they have not yet been able to fully test or make it work for 25p? everything else about the mp4 is valid too but to be particularly vague surely means they are doing their best to make 25p work, or 50p work? 50p at 24mb wont be good though? how about 48p and 50p. Their vagueness is very weird though?
  • 24p is only usable in very certain conditions in PAL-land. You only need one light source with the wrong HZ and everything go wobbly, wobbly.. (It doesn't matter that you set shutter to 50 - the odd frame "missing" causes irrepairable flicker. We're stuck with 1080i or 720p50 for such situations - which is a damn shame because the GH2 is clearly capable of better results than that.
    So those who think it's not useful - you clearly do not live in europe. 1080p50 would be a good option to have, but it would not replace the need for 1080p25.
  • @RRRR But the same problem exists in NTSC land with 24p surely? 24p isn't a multiple of 60Hz either ;)
  • @sam_stickland
    yeah.. can't really understand why anyone would want to use 60hz lights. ;)

    Though, one can use 80% mode.. Although obviously, it's not as reliable as native 30p - but it should save a shot which you cannot do in 24p. In NTSC land.

    I guess my main issue with the lack of 25p is that GH1 has it and the GH2 doesn't. It's not too different to 24p in terms of bitrate. It's a crippling factor with the GH2 right now. No doubt it can be a crippling factor with the lack of native 30p but for 30p you'd need 20% higher bitrate to get similar quality.
  • I shoot in 80% mode all the time - it's totally reliable and is actually proper 29.97fps - i've timed it out in comparison to the clock of an audio recorder I trust by slating a long shot beginning and end.

    You just don't get sound and you have to conform the frame rate. I conform it when transcoding, so no extra step is required, but still not ideal. No sound to use for syncing is the big issue, and of course, no sound if you just want quick and dirty sound from the camera's mics. But for anything that "quick and dirty" I'd probably just shoot at 720p anyway.
  • I would pay panasonic for 4:2:2 Log C patch... like a lot of money
  • There's not gonna be 4:2:2 and 10-bit, come on guys... I know it's nice to dream but you'll just get disappointed. If this happens I'll eat my left shoe!
  • I'd take the right. Guess S-Log and 25 FPS are realistic.
  • just give me the bloody 25P!
  • yep - bring on the 25p!
  • I've dropped Panasonic Germany a mail asking if we'd get 10bit etc at all.
    Not expecting any honest answer but the German support is quite cooperative so can't hurt to ask, eh? :D
  • A quote from Panasonic product specialist Mac Berggren (posted on dvx user)

    'A replacement for GH is obviously planned but unfortunately nothing I can tell you about. However, we recently released an update of GH2 software with a lot of that has been requested by our users such as 25p in the movie.'
  • @mrbill

    Please post a link directly to his quote.
  • I Try to do my best for a better translation ;-) These statements from Mac Berggren on AKAM.NO are to the 25p question very clear.. I hope he is right!! See the link to norwegian above and here
    http://www.akam.no/artikler/panasonic_svarer_deg_akkurat_naa/103535#nm_5555

    GH2 holdes tilbake?
    GH2 is limited in software?

    Spørsmål fra Peder Fylling Mæle:
    this question come from mr Peder Fylling Maele:

    Det er mange som påstår at Panasonic bevisst holder DMC-GH2 tilbake fra å utnytte sitt fulle potensiale, for å unngå å skade salget av AF100. Det skal du sleppe å kommentere, men jeg har et par relaterte spørsmål:

    Many people suppose that Panasonic limits the performance of the GH2 not to harm the sales of the AF100. This You do not need to answer, but I have 2 related questions:


    1 - Hvorfor ingen 1080p25 i PAL-land?!
    Why no 1080p25 i PAL-countries?

    2 - Hvorfor er det så problematisk å utnytte HDMI-utgangen til å hente ut et renere signal enn vanlig 24mbps AVCHD (422 ukomprimert) ?
    Why is it problematic to get clean HDMI out better than the usual AVCHD 24mbps?

    Svar: Answers:

    Hej Peder och tack för dina frågor. ( Greatings)

    1 - Vi har nyligen släppt en uppdatering till GH2 som ger den 25p. Det var en stark request från våra kunder då vi introducerade kameran och nu kan du snart ladda ner uppdateringen via vår hemsida. Vi har helt enkelt varit säkra på att 24p skulle ersätta 25p behovet men har blivit varse om att det ikke är så. :)
    1 - We just made an update for the GH2 which will implement the 25p. This was a strong demand from our costumers at the time we did introduce this camera, and soon you can download this software update on our homepage. We where sure that the 24p would substitute the need of 25p, but we learned this was NOT the case ;-)

    2 - När det gäller fråga Nr 2 så vet jag att det finns många som vill experimentera och vi har som du säger olika produkter för olika användare, där GH2 trots allt kostar under 10.000kr och är inte egentligen riktad till semi-pro användare. Och då ska den vara så enkel att operera som möjligt. Men som du ser så lyssnar vi på våra användare och förstår att det är något som efterfrågas - men jag har tyvärr inga besked jag kan ge nu på hur det kommer att lösas.
    2 - I know there are many people experimenting and we have as you know different products for different users, thats why the GH2 is affordable ( <10000 Nkr) and is not aimed for the semi-pro users. And so it has to be as simple to operate as possible. But as you see, we listen to our costumers and understand this is a feature which is demanded- but I have no message to give now how this can be solved.<br />
    Besvart: 8. nov 2011 16:57

  • 25p! Wow, almost unreal - I'd almost given up hope. This statement actually seemes very reliable to me.
    I really hope this update doesn't make the hack incompatible. Welcome, December!
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