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Capitalism: Morons want to block Sci-Hub
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    This is in addition to $4.6 and $10 millions fines.

    Capitalism want to stick to their rotten practices to stop spreading of knowledge, specially scienitfic.

    https://arstechnica.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/11/schihubenjoin.pdf

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  • I think there is more to this than meets the eye. Not morons, actually very clever to stop this. I don't think there's much difference with the music business, it's all about money.

  • Not morons, actually very clever to stop this. I don't think there's much difference with the music business, it's all about money.

    Huh

    Moron is a term once used in psychology to denote mild intellectual disability

    You again make fundamental error. No such thing as common good or common bad exist in society. Thing this guys with help of their government institutions want to do is to make their life more easy by getting more goods from working people (students and scientist of all sorts in this case). At the expense of everyone else and in the expanse of society progress (as it is all achieved by science). So, in their barbarian sense they re "smart", but in human terms they are morons.

  • @Vitaliy "You again make fundamental error. No such thing as common good or common bad exist in society."

    Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never said or implied anything like that!

    Then you say "At the expense of everyone else and in the expanse of society progress" Well that IS the common good! Slightly contradicting yourself there. ;-)

    "Moron is a term once used in psychology to denote mild intellectual disability" Well that quote came from who exactly? Certainly not me.

    By your definition of "Moron" most of the members on this forum would qualify.

    You can be very quick to criticise comments you don't agree with or understand, but use poorly thought out reasoning and misleading use of the English language. After this response, I care not for your ideas. They are old fashioned and inflexible. Time for you to stop using Capitalism as the source of all problems you see in the world, especially since you are also part of the Capitalist system.

    Over & Out

  • Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never said or implied anything like that!

    Of course you said. Directly. As getting more money is "clever", you just assume that it is core ideology of society, while it is ideology of ruling class spread to society.

    You can be very quick to criticise comments you don't agree with or understand, but use poorly thought out reasoning and misleading use of the English language.

    Can't be it all in reverse? :-) I mean bad understanding of English and sticking to basic media stamps :-)

    After this response, I care not for your ideas. They are old fashioned and inflexible. Time for you to stop using Capitalism as the source of all problems you see in the world, especially since you are also part of the Capitalist system.

    Seems you got me. :-) Time to give up, need to learn god ways most probably. Because instead of using science that tells us - capitalism is the stuff holding society from progress, we need to use capitalism media propaganda that lies deep in your mind. And of course all capitalists ever existed come to this world from Mars, no less, as none of them had been part of feudalism systems :-) So how you can be sure about me? :-)

  • So what is your position on a 3rd party giving away another's work for free? (In a capitalist system)

  • So what is your position on a 3rd party giving away another's work for free? (In a capitalist system)

    I always like strange abstract and rhetorical questions. :-)

    Here we have absolutely specific case. People who contribute their work to this journals are not paid by journals, their are financed by grants, sponsors, university, etc. Few capitalist bough out almost all journals, hiked prices to mars, work on restricting access to papers on university pages and access to preprints also. It is just social parasites.

    Restriction to access to scientific information is social crime. Need to explain it more. As we have constantly decreasing in size bunch of oppressors aka ruling class, it is perfectly legal to do so according to their laws. Remember, law is the will of the ruling class transformed into legal regulations . So you need revolution and repression (oppressors want you to fear this word) of former ruling class to move society to progress.

  • Yet you benefit from this system by offering the application of this "progress" from this knowledge through your website. I fail to see the difference between this and the "parasites" that make a dime publishing the knowledge itself.

  • Yet you benefit from this system by offering the application of this "progress" from this knowledge through your website.

    Can you please explain. What "progress"? How benefit? What application?

    In previous posts I clearly and fully explained situation. Protecting your oppressors and enemies is strange thing to do.

  • Using history as a guide, the question is: Which group of oppressors would you prefer? All political or ruling systems end up with an elite group in power with self interest and special priveleges, who oppress any opposing view. Monkeys with guns!

  • Which group of oppressors would you prefer? All political or ruling systems end up with an elite group in power with self interest and special priveleges, who oppress any opposing view. Monkeys with guns!

    I prefer dictatorship of proletariat.

  • I prefer dictatorship of proletariat.

    And you should be clever enough to know, that thats NOT a stable system. (In theorie it works, but in practice...you know: humans!)

  • And you should be clever enough to know, that thats NOT a stable system. (In theorie it works, but in practice...you know: humans!)

    I am clever enough to know that it is only alternative to dictatorship of bourgeoisie. You are writing this to convince yourself that things around have no alternative, because bourgeoisie media telling about human nature as foundation of opression. You want to position yourself between two chairs above empty space without any actual support below.

    "There are two classes, the proletariat and the bourgeoisie... And whoever isn't on one side is on the other".

    J. Reed

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