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GH3 - Worth waiting?
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  • Low bitrate 1080p60 wouldn't be great even if it has B-frames. Also... gawd... who knows how long it would take for announcement, availability, delivery, hacking, setting, tuning, testing, etc.

    Those who are upgrading from GH1 to GH2 right now didn't miss much.
  • You can't beat the price of a gh2 right now and the gh3 for all we know can be a while away. I have a gh2 but i plan on getting the gh3 as soon as it comes out.
  • @lolo I did that thing with my RJ adapter : stepless aperture works fine, but... now my 50mm ssc is stuck in it ! just can't figure how to remove that bloody thing (not a huge problem until i have to sell it) :') In the meantime, thanks to lenuisible, i'll buy the ciecio one for my others FDs... hope it handle infinity focus (which wasn't the case w/ RJ one).
  • Get a GH2, then get a GH3 if you're so set on one. They're dirt cheap as far as cameras are concerned, and the quality out of a GH2 is amazing, and I expect more of the same from the next incarnation. In all likelihood, they'll each have strengths/weaknesses, while being similar enough to edit together and look the same. Whichever one is available when I'm geared up to get a second cam, I'll buy. The GH2 is a great cam, and I think it always will be. I'd put it at or near the top of the list for 1920x1080 shooting machines.
  • @lolo
    >the "lock-open" switch is really useful if you want/need (and you need one for video) a stepless lens
    mmm, don't know if they are better lock ring than the one on my cheap adapter, but it's not dampened, and it take's half a centimeter to go from fully opened to fully closed, so it's almost unusable for the (relevant) purpose of having stepless aperture. Maybe usable with a FF, but then you will need 3 hands to change aperture, focus, and hold thecamera, unless you have a rig on a tripod.
    But I admit I'm biased as I use my GH2 without a rig, and often for stills to
  • I thought guys that the 1.1 firmware from panny was going to bring AVCHD 2?

    Stranger things have happened. Don't think that we will get 10bit any time soon though.
  • @Alexauwa the avchd 2.0 is in many way just marketing fluff, yes it gives you 1080p 60fps but at only 28 mbs. So if you divide it it as if you are filming at 12 mbs at 24p. The Sony 60p are full of mud/loss detail at 60p as soon as there are some detail. Now a gh3 with it would be good just because it can be hacked. I would have preferred that Panasonic puts its avc ultra 10 bit codec in a gh3, but I guess that with the success of the hacked gh2, they won't because a hacked 10bit gh3 would overshadow a lot any present and future large sensor cam as the AF-100 and any Af-200.
  • I'm not Douglas, but go for Premiere 5.5 (plus sufficient hardware) and you're set. CS4 isn't great with H.264 anyway.
  • Thanks for your feedback.

    @lolo What*s the excat adventage of the "lock-open"? As I might be going for somes older lenses like canons 50 mm f1.4 for which I will need the adaptor. Was also thinking of using the voigtländer 25 mm f0.95. Of couse both lenses can only be used in manual mode. Will there be advantages shooting with or without an adaptor?

    For AF shots, zoom, etc I am going to getting the kit lense 14-140 which is said to provide decent results.

    @DouglasHorn I am planing to shoot short films as well. Would you say its kinda hard to edit and deal with hacked GH2 footage (I am using AE, Premiere Pro CS4)? How much mbit/GOP ius required to really boost your image quality?
  • I don't see why you want to wait for the GH3 to be honest. If ya know Panasonic like I do they say one thing and it does not happened, that one reason. Two the hack pushes video quality as far as ya going to need it, no other camera is going to come close. At least in the next 3 years anyway. The canon 4K camera might do but that cost you lots of money which is something no lot of people have these days lol
  • The GH2 is a remarkable camera. To give you an example, I'm finishing a series where the first six episodes were shot on a 5DII with Zeiss primes and the next 4 episodes--plus pickup shots for the first six--were shot on my GH2s and FD primes. The quality difference is immediate and spans across areas of color quality, sharpness, and even intangibles like the fact that we were able to get certain shots with the GH2 that we could not have gotten with the 5D. I think the camera is amazing at this price, but frankly at any price. It just looks great and allows you to do things that few other camera systems can match.

    If you have projects to shoot now and need a camera, a hackable GH2 is a pretty good bargain, especially since the majority of your accessories will transfer to a GH3. If you don't have anything you have to shoot now, maybe you should wait. (Man, I hope that GH3 really does have a global shutter as rumored. Take away the jello cam and the thing is darn near perfect for actual use.)
  • @Alexauwa @lenuisible the "lock-open" switch is really useful if you want/need (and you need one for video) a stepless lens, you only have to place the lens on "A", from automatic, on the diaphragm ring and use the "lock-open" switch to open-close the blades in a stepless way, the switch is really useful for video... not a must, but really useful...
  • Thanks mate!
  • @ johnnymossvillejohnnymossville

    sounds great. Is there a good adaptor for canon lenses?
  • $765/GH2 Body right now on panasonic.com

    Heck of a deal for one heck of a camera. Buy it and then craigslist for some great old Canon FD Lenses. You won't be sorry.
  • It was in a German photo magazin, kind of an anouncement. It's hard to judge how good a new AVCHD 2.0 version as well as a 60p mode will be. I know that Sonys A65/77 is offering that which made the SLR become an competing alternative to the GH2.

    It true yeah, its selling pretty well. Panasonic is even running a cash back discount at the moment. I think I will go for it :) Unfortunately, I havent figured out what setting I shall use for the hack yet, but guess I'll find some good suggestions to run a stable version of the hack.

  • no brainer. just get GH2 asap.
  • there's always a reason to wait on the next iteration. The best camera is the camera you have and are using. The reality of the situation is that you can always sell your GH2 when the GH3 comes out. GH1s held their price well after the GH2 release. Also, the GH2 is hacked. the GH3 wont be when it's released.
  • I thought Panasonic said recently that the GH2 is selling strong, hence there won't be a GH3 anytime soon.

    Where did you read that article?
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