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Atomos Shogun Flame and Ninja Flame monitors
  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Flame Series Key Features:

    • With a Dynamic range to match that of a 10-bit camera LOG footage, AtomHDR monitors deliver the detail in highlights and shadows usually clipped on traditional monitors.
    • A highly advanced field monitor even in non-HDR scenarios with 1500nits brightness for outdoor shooting, native full HD resolution and optional calibration to ensure natural LCD colour drift can be corrected over time.
    • Record direct from the sensor in pristine 4K UHD (up to 30p) or record high frame rate HD (up to 120p)
    • Long with recording the high pixel density of 4K, the Ninja and Shogun Flame also record higher resolution 10-bit colour information and more precise yet efficient 4:2:2 colour encoding.
    • Recording to Apple ProRes and AVID DNxHR visually lossless edit-ready codecs ensure you capture full individual frames like film, providing more flexibility and creativity in post. Can be delivered to any standard – never worry about having your footage technically rejected due to the format again.
    • Ready for real-word conditions with built-in armour protection, dual battery hot-swappable continuous power system to ensure you always have power and a raft of included accessories including a new fast charger and snap-fast sun hood.
    • Our patented hot-swappable dual battery system for continuous power is backed up with the included power accessories (2 x 4-cell batteries, D-Tap adaptor and blazingly fast battery charger)
    • An arsenal of creative weapons including focus and exposure tools, 3D Custom Looks, Waveforms (LUMA and RGB) and Vector Scopes ensure you set the shot up perfectly every time.
    • XLR audio via breakout cables for Shogun Flame or 3.5mm line level input with audio delay, level adjustment and dedicated audio meters with channel selection for Ninja Flame.
    • We support affordable, readily available SSDs from the world’s most trusted media brands.
    • Shogun Flame is $ 1,695 ex. TAX
    • Ninja Flame is $ 1,295 ex. TAX

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Bundle available - Atomos Shogun Flame Recording Monitor W/SanDisk 480GB SSD DR/Shoe Mt/Cleaning

    https://www.adorama.com/atomshgfl1a.html?emailprice=t

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

    Review

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  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Atomos has done a fantastic job in updating their very popular 4K field monitor/recorder line.

    Previous problems mostly revolved around build and power, and these have been addressed as well as adding a great body of new features like 10-bit processing, AtomHDR and 1500-nit daylight viewing.

    https://www.cinema5d.com/atomos-shogun-flame-review-an-in-the-field-operators-view/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

  • dialdial

    I saw this a few weeks ago. Stefan does a great job showing it off.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    if you go further and compare it against the popular Atomos Samurai Blade, you can see just how much brighter the Shogun Flame is. The Samurai Blade I tested was 174lx (173.81nit). The Flame was 8.5x that figure.

    Blade is very low brightness monitor.

    The screen is super bright and it certainly lives up to all the hype. I measured the screen brightness using a Sekonic C-700 and it recorded 1500lx which translates to 1498.37nit, which is almost dead on the 1500nit of brightness Atomos claim.

    http://www.newsshooter.com/2016/04/08/first-impressions-of-the-atomos-shogun-flame-as-a-field-monitor/

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    OK, so then these HDR display formats aren't going to be like Dolby 5.1/7.1 sound and require mastering with their "patented" encoding?

    I have no idea, I mean Dolby Vision. You need to read their terms.

    For now all this HDR will be used in few big budget films, and will work unpredictably on TV sets.

    As I said - their idea is to have some control of dynamic backlight, but it depends on panel and TV brand.

    With OLED you do not need it, but with OLED very high brightness is not good idea.

    I am sure that wide gamuts and HDR will become central point in coming years. As resolution is limited by vision. And you can make people eat marketing by pushing colors and adding very bright lights to CGI blockbusters.

  • TronTron

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev OK, so then these HDR display formats aren't going to be like Dolby 5.1/7.1 sound and require mastering with their "patented" encoding? We're just talking about a display's native ability to boost brightness, etc for a given 10 bit stream?

    If true that would be a relief because I got enough problems to deal with in post already :)

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Tron

    All the trick here can be compression and working with low contrast LCD screens using dynamic backlight.

    If you just talking about 10bit HEVC you do not need any Dolby Vision. Most present TV sets are even able to play it themselves.

    Idea of industry is to sell you marketing names, not actual thing.

  • TronTron

    @Vitaliy_Kiselev I'm not entirely familiar with the mastering workflow here. If Atomos can provide a generic HDR LUT wouldn't it make sense for them to also eventually provide a Dolby Vision and/or HDR10 LUT if the DP is shooting to deliver in one of those formats?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    @Tron

    It is no more than set of patents and brand name.

    Except for this you do not need anything except some few simple statements.

  • TronTron

    If I had to place a bet, I'd wager Dolby Vision will win out. Looks like LG and Vizio are on board. http://www.dolby.com/us/en/brands/dolby-vision.html It looks like HDR10 is the other standard being pushed and is actually more widely adopted at this point. http://www.flatpanelshd.com/news.php?subaction=showfull&id=1453200912

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    The problem is: there is no standard yet…

    What kind of standard you need?

  • nomadnomad

    The problem is: there is no standard yet…

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

  • nomadnomad

    It just monitors in HDR, 10 bit log is enough to record.

  • kingmixerkingmixer

    I'm confused – does it just monitor in HDR, or does it actually convert those manufacturers' LOG into HDR and record that HDR image?

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    I hope we are not going to be flooded with HDR video like those AWFUL hdr imagery!

    They still have big issues with 4K content.

    So, most probably HDR will be restricted to around 10 demos and 4-5 films this year.

    Also monitor HDR has nothing to do with HDR you are telling about.

    Monitor HDR idea is to try to have 10-12bit panel with good contrast and high brightness. So, with most usual content it restrict brightness. And with few high DR scenes it can use all range, pumping up to 1500nits in your eyes.

    For now real HDR is possible for OLED, with LCD they try to use dynamic backlight control so in dark scenes you won't see horrible blacks caused by big brightness.

  • manstokmanstok

    I hope we are not going to be flooded with HDR video like those AWFUL hdr imagery!

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

    Well, yes, just filter out marketing.

    AtomHDR monitors deliver the detail in highlights and shadows usually clipped on traditional monitors.

    Like this one.

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