Today Cinemartin received the pre-production first unit. They said top of the lince (pictures) have better performance and quality features than Oddissey and Shogun, for a little more price

*4K recordings are currently limited to approx of 25-35 seconds per shoot. You can record as many shots as you like but 4K are limited to 25-35 seconds.

That's a pretty big restriction.

Hi "*4K recordings are currently limited to approx of 25-35 seconds per shoot." will be resolved as stated " This limitation will be resolved with a upgradeable new internal SSD drive available fall 2015." Form factor is about the same as other recorders (same as shogun and oddyssey only 4cm more higher). It weights 1.5 Kilo so it is not heavy, hey you get a recorder and a computer, with a high brightness display !

What is the resolution of the display?

Hi, size and weight are stated. You dont need to move files so theres no need for use the usb 3.0, If you dont like it dont worry, it is ok, we like it too much. We have the unit editing with premiere pro, the clip uploaded at you tube was done the edit with the same unit. Forgot tho say there will be some models (and some custom builds ) that will be compatible with MAC OS. Display is HD, IPS and 500Nits. Yes have a fan but is not a problem. And you'll hear no noise on your video unless you put the mic right on the device. and this almost nothings happens. There will be "probably" some basic OEM version without card , ssd and mem starting at sub 4 digits, for DIY users, but i cannot confirm on that. Some models will be compatible with MAC OS.

This unit is palm size mr spacewig so if you dont like dubius market then first get your hand palm extended and size it, width per height.

It is a shame that you dont support small teams like us, where this is an absolutely amazing and revolutionary product compared to what are today on todays market from mid-size companies, and you guys, on all the posts you are nothing more than complaining and complaining about.

So, I probably leave this board, and only reply to people really interested, for sure in other forums once I saw what the posts and people here said.

I'd love to support a small team with a revolutionary product. I'm less excited, however, to support a small team with used car lot marketing tactics trying to sell stuff with little or no demonstrable benefit over existing products.

A product which weighs 2x as much without battery as an existing product weighs with batteries because it requires me to run a full-power PC in order to operate an external recorder does not strike me as revolutionary in any way. What I see when I look at the pictures is a small off-the-shelf i5 motherboard with an off-the-shelf video capture card plugged into its PCI slot which has stuffed into a custom enclosure with a small HD screen bolted to the exterior which is running some somewhat neat custom software.

My thoughts? If the software is really your selling point, sell the software separately to let people construct their own external recorders. Keep selling your own reference implementation if you like, but I'd be much more excited if this product had less horsepower and was a lot smaller. Having the ability to run a NLE on my capture with a small internal screen and maybe a single external screen is not super exciting when compared with running it on the desktop or laptop that I already have.

Heck, this thread just inspired me to go do some searching. This little guy looks pretty neat: http://www.dexteralabs.com/inogeni/ Now to go see how small a device I can find which has one or two USB 3 ports...

Hello Muntus, your statements seem smore reasonable. The 185x180x40mm dimensions does not include the SDI connector as there will be a model with only hdmi, models with only sdi, models with both, and probably a OEM without any card installed. Users will be able "probably" (im confident and not sure about the team main decissions) a 995€ for DIY to put their own drive, memoery and card. We are aware of the Atomos, Convergent Design and VideoDevices (last 5" models are superb) and we know the people on the back, some like CD Mitch said that we are on different markets, probably, but for the same price tag or less, Cinemartin will provide a portable computer, a 444 native recording and true uncompressed (as opposed as RAW uncompressed, where on users need to spend too much time converting to editable format, opposed to uncompressed avi (a litle bigger in size) where clips are in the easier editable format, with all the powerfull that a 10Bit and 4:4:4 gives you on post). Add blutooth, gigaethernet and wifi host, streaming capable, long battery life and 3D recording capabilities (3D will be a litle bit pricey but betw 2K and 3K for a complete set) and a powerfull computer that can be connected to 2x display port displays up to 4K and simultaneously output SDI or HDMI video, .. hmnn Im ready, for sure And do not forget that done by a small team Spanish based, the first one to release a prores converter in 2012, he first to release an h265 encoder in 2103 and about the NEXT.. available "probably" (Im sure) end this month with deliveries in May, 2015

@eatstoomuchjam @leonbeas

Please, change tone. Be more friendly, no one is pushing you here to buy something.

@spacewig

Remembering similar attempts to make cameras and recorders I can tell you - it is not worst one :-)

I simply object to any resort to bullshit to promote a product, as should you.

Well, people are not born as PR gurus. They push things as they can, and as they know. I am sure they can improve with time using feedback.

Cinemartin is proud to announce that NEXT 4K high end model will support 4K60P true uncompressed video record using dual 6G-SDI inputs. NEXT High end models will support MAC OS.

4k uncompressed is true cinema quality, in a single .avi file. No other one brand/model feature true uncompressed. Yes, lossless compression is featured. But once you see the true power that uncompressed brings, it is a super bright, clean, cristal picture, the far away objects, precises, its .. nothing compared even with prores. 1TB brings about 40minutes of uncompressed recordings, we were able to edit the above hands-on video in uncompressed within the same device.

I dont understand what you mean by "Is that supposed to be OSX on there as an option? " Users will be able to install MAC OS on some NEXT models, but we will not support MAC OS and currently do not develop software for MAC, but now it is an option for MAC fanatics. More info at the FAQ on http://www.cinemartin.com/next/faq/ under "Is it compatible with MAC OS ?", so for MAC users, yes your lovely (cannot live with) MAC OS in a palm size, most powerfull than a MAC book pro retina, with a powerfull video engine..

Please do not critise, if you dont like do not post, I will be here for getting suggestions, coments and to answer questions and dudes about NEXT.

Note: website is constantly updated as we advance. Current the product it is not available, but will be in a few weeks. PR will be released next week or so.

Whats wrong with the word fanatics, dont worry, i leave this forum, as it seems are more users interested it critize me or our PR tactics than supporting or asking about the product. Bye