@Caveport It's cool - guess I wasn't very clear so partly mine. Anyway - the GH4 is fantastic as it is and if a Cinema DNG solution was found I would be the first to jump on board. It would be heavy on resources but the BMPCC has shown me how frustrating normal video is if one wants to really smash an image. Being a fan of RAW using Cineform has truly made me feel that indie productions can look as good as the big pictures we are used to for a fraction of the cost now.

Slow down - I didn't suggest it did - I posed a question. No need to put your exclamation mark friend. There have been rumours swirling around for a few days now that suggest that RAW video is coming to the GH4 in some sort of update. I am just linking the dots as it seems very plausible. The original tweet seems to have been deleted and more was discussed giving precious little more but the summary is below. There is an interview on the interweb that talks about how hard Mr Young of Atomos has been lobbying with the Japanese manufacturers to free up the crippled HDMI port on DSLRs and mirrorless cameras. He went over for a while and spoke to all of them that matter ( speaks fluent Japanese apparently ) as far as I can gather. The Shogun is being release in close co-operation with Sony ( even as a bundle with the A7S with much publicity ) and this may be Panasonic's side of negotiations. Time will tell - it's a rumour so it could be baloney

http://www.atomos.com/shogun/

Check what the HDMI port can do. Cinema DNG RAW! Perhaps the GH4 RAW rumours are tied in to this?

@alcomposer - thanks for posting that, I did see it earlier over on that website. It appears to be restricted to a mac platform, and we run all our machines on pc (various flavours of avid) or unix (flame and smoke) machines. As mentioned previously, taking sharpness back to -2 on the GH4 cures my aliasing problems, and in combination with taking noise reduction back the whole way, the camera produces astonishing resolution without sharpening artifacts.

@Astro,

I use Avid Media Composer Also. I transcode all of my footage to 1080P 24fps DNxHD 175X in Sorenson Squeeze Pro 9, then import it into Avid MC, it's a fast import.

Avid MC will import the 4K footage into whatever resolution you setup For "Import" in the "Media Creation" settings tab. However, when I did so it always crushed the blacks even though I used the same Luminance setting in-camera as I was using in avid(16-235 GH4 to 709 Avid MC or 0-255 GH4 to RGB Avid MC). I also didn't like the look of the footage of the Avid MC Import/Transcode either. So I trancoded it in an outside Transcode/Video Conversion Program like Sorenson Squeeze Pro 9 and the imported Sorenson DNxHD 175X trancoded footage looked much better with no crushed blacks.

@VK - I think so. Maybe things will improve when they develop DNx4k - but for now, the -2 sharpening helps hugely. The image is still as sharp as I would ever want.

I had terrible aliasing problems down converting 4k to hd in avid.

It must be just bad downscaling algorithm used by Avid.

@caveport I have yet to run into a single instance of noticeable moire. and creating 4:4:4 out of 4k is 100% true, I'm not so sure about 8 bit though. One is color depth the other is color resolution. The biggest benefit of converting to 4:4:4 is for green screen. If you don't do that then you probably won't notice a difference, doesn't do anything for color banding.

As I am in the process of ordering a GH4 (yes it is still a process here in Australia- don't know how long next shipment will be)- I wanted to make sure I get a few things straight: (Please correct me if I am wrong)

Moire is a bit of a problem in 1080.

Colour is ok

Gh2 still rocks

However 4k has no issues as far as moire and can be converted to 4:4:4 easily from in camera footage.

So basically gh4 is almost like blackmagic pocket camera in 4k mode? (Obviously not raw- but expose and white balance right and no problem! (Without moire issues that blackmagic have)...

So this is looking very nice then for gh4 land?

@chef

It is EISA awards, you just pay enough and they make categories for any camera you want to push :-)

GH4 is not just a stills camera, it's a hybrid. The GH3 made a huge splash in the HD-DSLR, or rather, "HD-DSLM" market, and the GH4 improved upon its already-impressive set of video features and image quality. The big story with video on the GH4 is, of course, 4K. Offering both Cinema 4K and Ultra HD/4K resolutions, the GH4 is ready, out of the box, for all your ultra-high-res video needs. Full HD also gets a significant boost in image quality with a trio of high bitrate options (200, 100 and 50Mbps), and there's a vast array of professional-level amenities, from focus peaking and zebras for highlight clipping to timecode and luminance and black level adjustments.

Video quality, not surprisingly, is very impressive with highly detailed picture quality and excellent dynamic range. While the default Photo Style is a little heavy on contrast and highlights were easy to blow out, like most settings with the GH4, it's very easy to tweak the image styling, tone, sharpness and contrast to your liking or needs, including two new cinema-style presets.

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/panasonic-gh4/panasonic-gh4A.HTM

http://www.bestmirrorlesscamerareviews.com/2014/08/13/the-complete-panasonic-gh4-review-chapter-one-still-photography/