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  • bleach551bleach551

    @arum,

    I hoping to get an Atomos ninja star when it came out to see how much difference it makes.

    @Mimirsan,

    I think it seems ever reviewer now compares every new camera to the GH4. The GH4 is a great camera for $1699, however the A6000 is not trying to compete in the same range as the Gh4.

    The A6000's competition are other none 4K cameras on the market and in that area I think it is very competitive.

  • babypandababypanda

    if it makes you feel any better, the review is very positive regarding the feature set.

    "the a6000 boasts a pretty impressive video specification, not just in terms of the headline spec of 1080p video at 60/30 and 24p, but also in terms of how much control is offered and how many supporting features are included."

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    @babypanda dpreview? really? http://soundimageplus.blogspot.it/2014/06/dpreview-review-of-sony-a6000-oh-dear.html

    I chuckled at the reviewer marking the camera down because of his hand moving the camera when hitting record. Like that never happens with any other mirrorless/dslr or camcorder!

    No the video quality isnt "hugely impressive". Its perfectly fine for what it is. What does hugely impressive mean anyway? GH4 standard? The cam don't cost over a grand and isn't targeted to the prosumer filmmaking market...yet ironically has decent peaking and zebra options offered in the package...wheras some prosumer products cant even get that right.

    Its a bit boring reading idiotic negatives whenever a new E mount camera comes out.

  • babypandababypanda

    the review of the a6000 from dpreview claims the video is "not hugely impressive" and "much less detailed than the RX10".

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    About that video that was posted earlier (the vs GX7) Clearly the guy failed to understand that sensitivities are different between the two and needs to learn to expose things properly in relation to the cameras characteristics.
    Ive always found that Nex cameras always over expose in video and put it down at around -0.7 EV. Another very simple solution...use a polariser or ND.

  • MimirsanMimirsan

    I had a good amount of time with the A6000 taking photos over the weekend. Here's some photos from RAW and edited in lightroom. Had to resize as they were big files.

    Ive got to get used to the 24 megapixels. It first seemed that the Zeiss 24mm f1.8 is poorer performing than when used with the 6. But the zeiss has characteristics I like. This camera needs sharp lenses to get the best out of it. I love the extra resolution. It at first seemed really noisy at higher iso's in Raw but cleans up nicely and once you bring down the resolution of the final pic it can dissipate a lot of the noise.

    Left photo is the 18-105mm (Surprisingly good for photo work) Right is the 24mm f1.8 (look at that messy bokah and CA)...lower quality than the originals.

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  • arumarum

    Thanks for all the tests @bleach551 Any chance you can get hold of an external recorder like a ninja or hyperdeck and shoot some underexposed images? I like my 5N a lot for many reasons, but any part of the image that was underexposed was either clipped or full of the most annoying macro blocking fuzz. If the A6000 can avoid that with an external recorder, I'll probably get it instead of the GH4.

  • bleach551bleach551

    Here's a dynamic range test I made with the Sony A6000 and Nikon 105mm f1.8 ais at F2.8.

  • bleach551bleach551

    Here's a rolling shutter test I made with the Sony A6000 and Contax Zeiss 135mm f2.8 At F4.

  • Vitaliy_KiselevVitaliy_Kiselev

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  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

    Comparison with GX7

  • MikeLinnMikeLinn

    Macro test

  • trafficartetrafficarte

    @bleach551: thanks again, II've messed around with your files and I'm really glad to see how much I can push before nasty artifacts appear. :-)

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  • bleach551bleach551

    @AlbertZ, @trafficarte

    I had a little time when the storm let up some so I have some more test footage.

    I Have used "Wetransfer" .

    The files will include all 13 picture profiles in the Sony A6000. I have them in both their original .MTS file and in clipwrapped .mov files.

    All of the picture profiles were set to:

    0 (contrast) 0 (saturation) -1(Sharpness).

    here is the WEtransfer link to all 26 files 607.8 mbs

    http://we.tl/pichAHE8XU

    Shot with Sony A6000 and Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton at F/4, ISO 100, Tiffen .3 72mm ND filter.

  • bleach551bleach551

    @trafficarte,

    You're welcome! When it stop raining down here I will see if I can upload some more files if I have the time.

    @albertZ,

    Don't forget, Like I stated earlier in this thread, the D7100 had a "+2" sharpening and the A6000 had its sharpness turned all of the way down to "-3". The "Neutral" profile is indeed flat, I would say flatter than the "Neutral" profile in the D7100. However, other profiles in the A6000 are much more saturated and look almost indentical to the D7100's test footage image.

    Like I mentioned to @trafficarte Its raining heavily where I live now, but I will try to do another test with the D7100's sharpness turned all the way down to "0" and not "+2".

    Test footage settings:

    Lens Used Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton SL-II At Aperture F/2.8( It was about to rain so it was very cloudy)

    Canon D7100

    I thought I set everything to all Zeros(0,0,0,0,0) but after checking the file in "ViewNX" it says that it was

    +2 (sharpening) -1 (contrast) 0 (brightness) +1 (saturation) 0 (hue)

    Neutral picture profile used. Sorry about not having everything set to all 0's, It was about to rain and I haven't used my D7100 in a few weeks.

    Sony A6000

    0 (contrast) 0 (saturation) -3(Sharpness)

    -1 would have been the equal of +2 in the D7100. Neutral Profile was used.

    ISO 100, Tiffen .3 ND 72mm filter used.

    A buddy of mine is going to buy my D7100 soon so I don't know how much longer I will have the D7100 for test footage.

  • trafficartetrafficarte

    @bleach551: many, many thanks! I've downloaded the files, opened them in FCPX and I've done some tweaking, just to taste the Sony's robustness under less than professional hands like mine. Looks like this camera can be really a great choice for me: I've almost reached the same look with the Nikon shoot, not exactly, but almost there... Thanks again!

  • AlbertZAlbertZ

    @bleach551 thank you very much, just downloaded! My impression now is that, apart from a bit (but just a bit, I agree with you) of sharpness advantage of Nikon, the very difference is the color contrast between the two video straight from camera ;) With a proper color grading, I think that result will be very very close :)

  • bleach551bleach551

    @trafficarte,

    Here is the "Wetransfer" Link to all 3 files you requested! Sorry about the Rapidgator Links not working for you.

    http://we.tl/NacfL2w3Ia

    Have to go to bed now! see you in the morning.

  • trafficartetrafficarte

    @bleach551, I can't download the files, every click starts a loop of "please wait...". It's possible for you to put them on Wetransfer?

    Thanks

  • bleach551bleach551

    @AlbertZ,

    Hopefully I did this correctly.

    http://rg.to/file/f83bbc46a3f1ee36dac76ce9c0bdc8c9/Sony_A6000.MTS.html

    http://rg.to/file/c305536501c1e27fe135565fb84f4c3d/Sony_A6000_Clipwrapped.mov.html

    http://rg.to/file/3b8e7dff86602f5e0f75a79729508edd/Nikon_D7100.MOV.html

    Lens Used Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton SL-II At Aperture F/2.8( It was about to rain so it was very cloudy)

    Canon D7100

    I thought I set everything to all Zeros(0,0,0,0,0) but after checking the file in "ViewNX" it says that it was +2 (sharpening) -1 (contrast) 0 (brightness) +1 (saturation) 0 (hue)

    Neutral picture profile used. Sorry about not having everything set to all 0's, It was about to rain and I haven't used my D7100 in a few weeks.

    Sony A6000

    0 (contrast) 0 (saturation) -3(Sharpness)

    -1 would have been the equal of +2 in the D7100. Neutral Profile was used.

    ISO 100, Tiffen .3 ND 72mm filter used.

  • AlbertZAlbertZ

    @bleach551 No problem for Rapidgator, I do not have the premium membership however it is not a problem to wait. I would use the Voigtlander 58mm at f4 for the test. Thanks in advance, it's a very helpful test! :)

  • bleach551bleach551

    @AlbertZ,

    I will be conducting the test you ask for within the next Hour. I will include both a .mts file from the A6000 and a RE-wrapped .mov files of the .mts file from Clipwrap v2.6.1. I will also include a .mov file from the D7100. I was also going to shoot "Neutral" picture profiles on both

    any preference on where you want the files uploaded to? I was going to use "Rapidgator", the only thing about Rapidgator is that if you dont have a premium membership, you may have to wait in between downloads.

    Also I will be using the same lens on both cameras. Would you prefer the Zeiss 50mm 1.4 ZF.2 or the Voigtlander 58mm 1.4 Nokton? Also what F-stop would you prefer?

  • AlbertZAlbertZ

    @bleach551 very useful info, thanks! when you have time to unbox your D7100 and upload two files of the same shot, we can test them in a NLE...not a scientific comparison, obviously... thanks again for your thoughts and time :)

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